UPDATED: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs following UFC 117
by Matt Bishop on Sep 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT
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In a shocking turn of events more than a month following the show, Sherdog.com reports that Chael Sonnen has tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug following his UFC 117 loss to Anderson Silva.
"[Sonnen] received his notice yesterday," (California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer George) Dodd told Sherdog.com shortly after the Shane Mosley-Sergio Mora boxing match ended Saturday night in Los Angeles.
In a conversation the day before, Dodd declined to comment on the situation, other than answering that all fighters from UFC 117 had passed drugs-of-abuse scans, but that the commission was still waiting on performance-enhancing drug screens from the event.
Dodd did not state which banned substance was red-flagged, but with a clean drugs-of-abuse scan it is clear the positive test was for a performance-enhancing substance.
This is a unbelievable development in the great saga of this fight. Already one of the most talked about fights in MMA history from the moment it was announced, through the fight itself and then after, this news adds just another twist to it.
Of course, this likely puts a halt to the planned rematch between Sonnen and Silva. Sonnen can appeal whatever suspension he will be given.
I know from reading all your comments here that Chael Sonnen isn't the most well-liked fighter in this community due to his antics. What do you guys think about this news?
[UPDATED by Matt Bishop, 9/19/10 2:56 p.m. ET]: Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer has more from UFC president Dana White:
Dana White this morning said he's still waiting to hear details of what happened involving Chael Sonnen and the reported positive drug test from the Aug. 8 fight with Anderson Silva in Oakland.
White said he had not heard from the athletic commission, nor heard any story from Sonnen, but said, "It's in the government's hands right now."
If Sonnen tests positive and is suspended, White said they would have to make a decision on what to do next in the middleweight division.
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"Every day when I wake up, something bad happens. This one's public," said White. He didn't want to say more about Sonnen until finding out more facts of the situation, but did say this one was devastating.
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According to Nate Marquardt’s twitter:
Ok so sounds like it’s confirmed that Sonnen failed drug test when he fought Silva. Apparently he was taking meds 4 flu n that made positive. And also these websites post stuff that’s not true or confirmed sometimes. We will have to see. Time will tell.
The man has a point that it’s all speculative right now, since I don’t think the CSAC has made any official comment. However, how exactly would Marquardt know what’s up? It’s not like he’s a Portland boy that’s chilling with Team Quest and has the inside track (as far as I know).
What has me interested is what happens if this sticks. It’s not like the CSAC is known for being an upstanding place to fight in, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they eff’d up someone’s test results. I mean, if this alleged positive test sticks and Sonnen gets his suspension down to say, a 90 day suspension, but it’s widely accepted by the UFC brass and the public at large that he got a raw deal, does he still get that title shot? Or does he get dumped off of the contendership track immediately? People aren’t fans of cheaters, and this could go a long way to influence the public perception of Sonnen. I mean, Sean Sherk went from being a dude that people were neutral about to being hated and booed, but few people tend to remember Stephan Bonnar testing positive for boldenone.. you know, the horse steroid.
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Stephan also wasn’t in co-main or main events at the time, so the UFC had no real trouble putting him on the backburner.
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by Anthony Pace on Sep 19, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
marquardy testing positive once
so i can see how he’s sympathetic.
But yeah I agree, websites are talking way too much crap b4 they have evidence.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 20, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
If Sonnen did test positive for PEDs, there is no way I’d give him an immediate rematch. The precedent would be staggering.
Sean Sherk got an immediate rematch
Although (what I remember) Dana didn’t dig the shenanigans that were going on at the CSAC, and bought Sherk’s excuse.
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True. And if they want to give Chael another shot at the champion about a year from now (which was how long Sherk had to wait for the Penn fight), I’m fine with that. In my opinion, though, Chael Sonnene doesn’t need to be fighting Silva in January or whenever the next middleweight title defense is.
Waiting for reasons/excuses before I express an opinion. But yeah…
"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"
yup
i want to hear something from Chael on this…
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by RearNakedPoke on Sep 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably just a zany, “Threes Company”-type misunderstanding. Just like Palmeiro’s B-12 shot that gave him his false positive test in baseball.
hopefully
still find it hard to believe he’d cheat…
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by RearNakedPoke on Sep 20, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
"If it’s true, I feel really bad for him," said Soares. "I know he did it to himself but it is really sad, he put on such a great performance that night. It is just a shame it will be tarnished."
I actually agree whole-heartedly with that statement.
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hmm… interesting.
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by Anthony Pace on Sep 19, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What a surprise. Nobody took this possibility in account and now we got lots of new oppinions on Chael Sonnen. He put on a good match with Anderson, just it. Never thought he could become a champion or even a real contender. Poor trash talk fans.
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Well, to be fair even if he did do steroids, I don’t think it would have changed anything.
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If this is true, I can't say I'm surprised.......
When Sonnen fought Okami I thought to myself that something was clearly….different. I didn’t assume it was PED’s but I didn’t believe a guy who’s been fighting for 10 years could suddenly improve so much. The Sonnen that beasted on Okami, Marquardt, and Silva, is not the guy that fought Maia, Miller, or Filho. Granted he was always a strong, tough, wrestler who was very active. It just seemed to me that he was just strong-er, tough-er, and fast-er when he fought Okami (and after).
I’m not condemning him, and this is pure speculation on my part. I’m just saying I noticed a new Chael after the MIller fight. That’s not to say that’s when it started, but that’s when I thought I saw a change.
It’s common in rookies to see drastic improvement in a short period of time, but not usually in guys who have been fighting for 10 years. Especially a person who’s close-minded and adverse to learning new things (drawn from comments Chael has made in the past).
The harder you work, the luckier you get.........
by The Demolition Man on Sep 20, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
That is a ridiculous argument, Sonnen has been tested his entire life from olympics to multitple UFC fights and never once tested positive.
The idea that he’s somehow a different fighter because of steroids than he’s been his entire career is aside from wrong pretty insane. Sonnen is a guy who competed at LHW he’s tossed around 205’ers it’s no surprise to see him do the same to MW’s. When you have some of the best wrestling of anyone in mma it’s not hard to take guys down and poudn them out.
Why don’t we deal with facts and stop reaching for things that aren’t there.
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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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If the facts reveals that he did use banned substances . . . then this incident will pretty much tarnish all of his past achievements. Well he can also say that he began to dabble only 2-3 years ago or give a specific timeline like Alex Rodriguez kind of sort of did. Either way, it is not a good look.
Still, Sonnen like Sherk, like Andy Pettite, like David Ortriz, like Hermes Franca, like Marquardt, like Barnett, like Stephan Bonnar, like Jason Giambi and a number of other professional athletes pegged as cheaters deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 20, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s bullshit, what did the guy just happen to forget how to pass the test in the biggest fight of his life after passing them his whole career?. That’s the type of stuff i’m talking about when I say people are reaching unless you’re a multiple time offender like Barnett a falied test should be taken for what it is and nothing more.
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cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 21, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Calm down tough guy....
I stated that I was “speculating”, and in the title I said “IF this is true”. If you don’t agree with with me, so be it. I’m entitled to my opinion, and I stand by it.
This is a forum, and I can say whatever the F*ck I want, as long as I abide by the rules of this site.
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by The Demolition Man on Sep 20, 2010 2:34 AM EDT reply actions
You have every right to say whatever you want just like I have every right to call you out on it, it’s not personal and i’m far from a tough guy.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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lol
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by RearNakedPoke on Sep 20, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If the yellin' dudes could use the 'reply' function
That’d be great.
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