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'Shark Fights 13: Jardine vs. Prangley' Open Thread, Discussion

Join MMAForReal.com community members and staffers starting at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT for our open thread for tonight's "Shark Fights 13: Jardine vs. Prangley" pay-per-view broadcast. The show is headlined by two light-heavyweight clashes: The first between Keith Jardine and Trevor Prangley and the second between Sokoudjou and Houston Alexander.

The show starts at 8 p.m. ET with preliminary bouts on Sherdog.com. The event continues at 10 p.m. on pay-per-view.

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For the prelims

This should work: http://www.sherdog.com/events/SF-13-Shark-Fights-13-14141

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by -Neil- on Sep 11, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Word

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by _Felix_ on Sep 11, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, quality of this stream

Makes me feel like I’m watching an old movie on VHS

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by -Neil- on Sep 11, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

50% Whoa!!!

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by _Felix_ on Sep 11, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

HOLY ISH

I know Davilla was over, but FIFTY PERCENT of his purse? WOW.

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by -Neil- on Sep 11, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't bother counting

But it’s up there.

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by -Neil- on Sep 11, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't realize they were supposed to give breaks for head-butts

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by -Neil- on Sep 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh!!!

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by _Felix_ on Sep 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Pete, I'd like you to meet Davila's knee

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by -Neil- on Sep 11, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been trying for a half hour to get the stream to work, to no avail. Seems like a lot of other folks are having the same problem.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you get there late?

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by _Felix_ on Sep 11, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, started since about two minutes before the show was supposed to start actually.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow

I got there right when it started. It’s lagged a few times but nothing major.

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by _Felix_ on Sep 11, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve had nothing but a little spinning load icon for the last 40 minutes.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found a stream on another site, this Ronnie Mann vs Doug Evans fight is good stuff.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Don is rocking the flag shirt and talking about prison sex already.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

howdy

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by Charles Walker on Sep 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

How you liking this Don Frye commentary Charles?

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

horrible thus far, it really takes away from the fights to me

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by Charles Walker on Sep 11, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Don Frye. Kinda just have to enjoy it for what it is.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, he’s definitely not as bad as Bill Goldberg

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by Charles Walker on Sep 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Bradley totally out grapples Johnny Rees and puts him away with an RNC late in the first round.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Nicely done 9/11 tribute.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

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by Charles Walker on Sep 11, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tarec Saffedine vs Brock Larson up next. This should be a pretty decent matchup.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

What exactly does the armed forces have to do with 9/11 besides the air force’s complete incompetence in responding to the situation?

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by villin on Sep 11, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy there Seabiscuit.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I thought. Sweet fuck all.

If your going to do a tribute why not honor the people who were actually involved. You know; fire fighters, police officers and other emergency response personnel.

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by villin on Sep 11, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

10-9 Saffedine. It’s incredible how much Larson has physically aged in the last year or so.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Saffedine. Larson can’t do much of anything out there.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

10-8 Saffedine for a 30-26 card from me. Larson didn’t do anything but get beat up out there tonight.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

All three judges score it 30 × 27 for Tarec Saffedine.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Joey Villasenor vs Danillo Villefort up next.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Don Frye makes a joke about beating his wife – YUS!

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Villefort via grappling, but he has no gas left. This isn’t looking good for him going forward.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Very close round. I thought Villasenor had the better offense, and I scored it 10-9 for him, but the donk judges probably gave it to Villefort based on having more time on top.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

In a bizarre bit of game planning, Villasenor takes down Villefort, who reverses him, takes his back, then goes to mount to finishes the round. 10-9 Villefort for a 29-28 Villefort card from me.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

All three judges score the bout 30 × 27 for Danillo Villefort.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Paul Daley vs Jorge Masvidal up next………this should be interesting, to say the least.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really, Masvidal is much better at LW. Daley by ko.

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by villin on Sep 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bas Rutten and Don Frye doing the double rainbow routine just made my life complete.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Daley. Not a whole lot going on out there thus far. Both guys pretty respectful of each other’s skills.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Masvidal. Daley really fading out there and getting taken down a bunch.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Close round, but I still thought Masvidal did enough to win that round 10-9. Wouldn’t be suprised or upset if they gave it to Daley though. This fight could go either way. Daley did NOT look good though, and a win will hinge literally on 30 seconds of offense at the end of the third round.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Paul Daley wins with scores of 29-28, 29-28………and 30-27. How anyone could score the second round for Daley is beyond me.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Paul Daley literally won that fight because of the last 30 seconds of the third round.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This has been one of the worst shows in years. Really terrible showing from alot of the fighters, horrendous commentary and pathetic production.

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by villin on Sep 11, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude, did you watch Shine Fights last night? This is like watching a UFC PPV compared to that garbage.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed it but if it really was much worse than this then I can’t even imagine it.

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by villin on Sep 11, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was so horrible I can’t even put it into words. At least 6 guys, if not more, went flying out of the ring onto the announcing table.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This fight was a perfect example of what is wrong with both fighters- Paul Daley has problems with making weight and wrestling, and Jorge Masvidal has problems being incredibly passive at times and blowing it when it really counts.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Atleast we know this next fight isn’t going the distance. Neither guy has the gas or chin to go three rounds.

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by villin on Sep 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Sokoudjou vs Houston Alexander up next. Both guys have huge power and questionable chins. This is either going to end quickly and violently, or it’s going to be a staring match.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This fight should have been hyped as the fight between the two ugliest human beings on earth.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Sokoudjou, but he’s seriously gassed. Houston Alexander landed two headbutts at the end of the round from top position.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

To be fair Alexander’s forehead is mutantly misshapen so he might not be doing it on purpose.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Houston Alexader drops Sokoudjou, forces him to the fetal position, and pounds him out in brutal fashion.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Great comeback by Houston Alexander. He took a horrible beating in that first round, survived and came back to get the win. Good for him.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

The guy who KO’ed Minotoro Nogueira just got pounded out by the guy who got outgrappled by Kimbo Slice.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

He got ko’ed by fuckin Minowa, Soakajew is utter trash.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a little disappointed Don didn’t call Bas a fag for using twitter. You know The Predator don’t play that shit.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s time for the main event between Trevor Prangley and Keith Jardine.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s two solid, talented veterans fighting. I can enjoy that.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

What kind of douchebag wears a white tie with a black suit and shirt, honestly?

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Prangley. He almost knocked out Jardine with a knee, then was caught in a deep armbar by Jardine when they hit the mat. Hell of a fight so far.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Very close round, but I’d favor Prangley because he actually dropped Jardine.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with the crowd

booooooooooooooooooo

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Jardine in the third round for a 29-28 Prangley card from me, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the judges gave it to Jardine. Prangley was pretty passive the last two rounds.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Trevor Prangley wins by split decision. Keith Jardine has lost his last 5 fights now.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Kiss those UFC hopes goodbye Keith, you ain’t coming back.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Keith Jardine looks completley dejected.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Nothing but pure class from Trevor Prangley in his post fight comments.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

“That was like 2 hours of rough hard sex.” God, I love Don Frye.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

That redeemed this entire night of crap for me.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s been fun sweetheart.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t call me sweetheart, slapnuts.

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by villin on Sep 12, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome back to the UFC Keith! WOOO!!

…oh wait.

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by -Neil- on Sep 12, 2010 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

If he’s getting rocked badly by a 185 pound journeyman, he needs to seriously consider his career options at this point.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well really, it's nothing new

The man should’ve been doing that a few fights ago, but whatever. He is what he is, and I’d bet dollars to donoughts that he’ll never change.

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by -Neil- on Sep 12, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re most likely right. Jardine has been the same fighter for pretty much his entire UFC tenure. I think the fact that he beat Forrest Griffin and Chuck Liddell and gave Quinton Jackson a tough fight just speaks more to what those fighters brought to the cage that night than what sort of fighter Keith is. He’s a really sloppy kickboxer who has gone 3-7 in his last ten fights. He’s going to put on a good show and give guys a good test. Nothing more, nothing less.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and also

Like I said in the preview show, it was not outside of the realm of possibility for Alexander to win. Bad officiating might’ve helped, but the dude got it done.

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by -Neil- on Sep 12, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

It was nice to see Alexander actually display a chin, and he showed some real heart out there to survive that beating. But Sokoudjou followed his standard pattern – push him to around the 7 minute mark, and he’ll fold every time.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well let's be fair

Alexander’s chin is still the same, and the fight should’ve been called in the first round. But yeah, Sokoudjou is still awful.

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by -Neil- on Sep 12, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why should the fight have been called in the first round? He never stopped defending himself, and clearly he was in good enough shape to come back in the second round and win.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That man was out on his feet

Holding on to that leg was all he had, and you can see even at the end of the round he didn’t know where he was. Hell, the guy was so out of it that he was head-butting Jardine’s chin!

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by -Neil- on Sep 12, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had it within himself to keep clinching and going for takedowns, and twards the end of the round he even pulled off a reversal from the bottom. That’s intelligent defense. You make it sound like he laid there in the fetal position for 2 minutes getting his skull pounded in.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 12, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't in the fetal position

But all he did was NOT get knocked out. He was getting pounded in the face Hamill on Boetsch style when he was going for that desperation single. Yeah, he got his faculties back (mostly) shortly after that, but the man should’ve been TKO’d just like how Sokodjou should’ve been TKO’d earlier in the second round.

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by -Neil- on Sep 12, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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