Chael Sonnen Has Finally Crossed the Line
by Erich Vowell on Aug 4, 2010 7:11 PM EDT
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Many fans are crying for Chael Sonnen's head after the statements he made about Lance Armstrong on Pro MMA Radio. I have a question for those fans, is this comment worse than anything he has said in the weeks leading up to his fight with Anderson Silva at UFC 117? It must be since this comment has sent so many people in a tizzy. Let's take a look at a few comments from Bloodyelbow.com:
From BeeTrain: "it's one thing to talk shit about kicking another fighter’s ass, it’s a completely different thing to call someone out for “allegedly” giving himself cancer….of which is completely unfounded. Chael has got to learn to shut his face"
From Krimson: "Ok…I think the line has been OFFICIALLY crossed. It’s only a matter of time before the mainstream media finds this out and shits on MMA fighters as usual"
From Gerrymanderer: Uncle Dana won't be happy. The line was just
crossedleapt over.
This mirrors what many fans throughout the blogosfere are saying. Chael Sonnen has apperently "crossed the line" because he picked on Lance Armstrong. Yet when saying this gem, not as many fans thought he "crossed the line."
Ed, pray to whatever Demon effigy you prance and dance in front of with your piglet tribe of savages that I decide not to CRUCIFY you.
The always vibrant Sherdog.net chimes in:
From BusterBluth: I love this guy
From Gregolian: I love Sonnen but he might start running out of material soon.
From Face Stab: I'd never much paid attention to Sonnen before this match-up, but he's comedy gold. That quote is just plain awesome. It might supplant my current favorite Chael Sonnen signature quote
My thoughts after the jump.
To be fair to Bloodyelbow's readers and commenter's they condemned Chael's comments from the very beginning. I just find this interesting because the majority of fans were loving Sonnen's comments. Every appearance or interview fans were anticipating something breathtakingly offensive. Fans wanted him to be offensive! Fans were disappointed in his interview on Versus because he wasn't offensive enough!
Yet Sonnen says somthing relativly tame for his standards about Lance Armstrong and fans say he crossed the line? Wait so it is cool to demonize Ed Soares and company, but Armstrong is off limits? I don't think it is a matter of opinion, Sonnen's comments about Ed Soares and the fighters he manages are much more offensive than his comments about Armstrong. Why are so many people outraged over his Armstrong comments then?
I wonder if has anything to do with the fact Lance Armstrong is a sympathetic figure and American? Beyond that I think MMA fans have given a pass to Sonnen because just about everyone thinks Sliva is going to tear him apart. To me it seems that fans have grown tired of Chael running his mouth and can't wait for Saturday's fight.
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I meant they delete peoples comments for fighter bashing.
They ban those that don’t kiss their as or disagree with them.
Anyway, IMO Sonnen knows what he he is saying is over the line and doesn’t believe half of the stuff he says. But one thing he says is true: Somebody’s got to promote this fight.
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there are a bunch of people at BE
who praise Chael’s trash talk, I’d say it’s 50/50 on the matter.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Were you banned from BE, Felix?
I ask because you’re always quite amiable in our comments
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 4, 2010 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A while ago I was
but not anymore. Nowadays I hardly comment on there.
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and of all things
it was for bashing Kimbo Slice. LOL!!!
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I think most people who were defending him before
are the people who are really mad at Silva, therefore they didn’t think Chael was crossing the line, but as soon as he took on Lance, who most people look up to, they felt he crossed the line because most people like Lance. my two cents anyhow.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Also, a lot of his previous comments (“demon effigy”, “piglet”, that stuff about pink shirts and earrings) were disguised by a kind of bizzare, comical camaflouge. People could laugh it off. The latest ones are just ham-fisted, and he’s starting to trip over himself.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 4, 2010 9:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is all relative to the subject of cancer.
Cancer is a desease so widespread that 75% of those reading have/had a family member with cancer. I wonder if he would have said “I cant stand Magic Johnson, if you cheat on your wife over a thousand times you will give yourself aids” what the reaction would have been. I really think people were defending their love ones more than Lance Armstrong. The attack just became personal and it became hard for most to laugh from a distance.
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It’s theater.
The fact that he’s blowing up the internet with this stuff and getting people excited to tune in to see what happens to him on August 7th just means everything is working to a T.
Honestly, why anyone would actually care what Chael Sonnen thinks about Lance Armstrong is beyond me. So what if Sonnen thinks Lance Armstrong did steroids and gave himself cancer? That doesn’t effect the fight in any way, shape or form. If anything, it’s just one more thing to laugh and shake your head about in the lead up to the fight. To put any deeper thought into it than that is just silly.
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You mean "theatre"?
A theater is where theatre takes place.
While I couldn’t give less of a shit about Lance Armstrong (or Sonnen for that matter) than I already do, can you seriously not understand how these comments can piss off people? It doesnt matter if they come from Sonnen or my cousin Greg. Although I don’t sympathize personally, there are droves of people who admire him, look up to him, and have been inspired by him. You can’t just write off the thousands upon thousands of cancer survivors and their loved ones who feel a connection with Armstrong because you personally dont give a shit.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 4, 2010 9:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The intent by Sonnen is to piss people off. He wants to get people upset so they tune in to see his fight. Obviously, it’s working.
What I don’t understand is, how someone can be offended in any way, shape or form by what a fighter says on an internet radio show. Why are you giving him the power to do that? Chael Sonnen could go to the UFC presser tomorrow and shit all over everything I hold sacred in this world, and it wouldn’t change my day one bit.
It’s like people getting all enraged by Don Imus calling those basketball players “nappy headed hoes”. What Don Imus thinks gets your dander up? Really? What Don Imus or Chael Sonnen think should have no effect on you. They are entertainers. If they say something you don’t agree with, change the channel. It’s nothing worthy of outrage. I disagree with 99% of what Janeane Garofalo says – and she says some things that seriously push my buttons at times – but I just shrug my shoulders and change channels. I don’t foam at the mouth and go online talking about how she crossed the line and how I’m offended.
You shouldn’t let the words of anyone other than your loved ones and good friends hold any weight with you. If you’re letting what Chael Sonnen says get you all hot and bothered, you’re just giving him the victory he wants. Sonnen is laughing his ass of at all of this. Not only is he loving the attention, it’s building his brand and making him a lot of money. He’s a bona fide super star after this, win or lose. And it’s all because people got instantly butt hurt every time he opened his mouth.
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Chael Sonnen is part of a larger machine
Sure, kids playing guitar in their garage who only smoke pot and go hiking can tune him out. But he’s been the loudest motor mouth in MMA for the past four months. If you follow MMA just tangentally, Sonnen is inescable. I even agree with you that people shouldnt care, but its a fact of life that many will.
As a Christian, I’m often infuriated by people I’ve seen on MMA threads mock my faith, and I’ll likely never even know their real names. So it doesn’t befuddle me that Sonnen would draw the ire of people who view Armstrong symbolically in their or a loved one’s struggles with cancer. Cancer is an overwhelming aspect in many people’s lives.
The whole Don Imus thing was laughble to me, though. The man is a walking joke.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 4, 2010 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m a Christian as well, and I don’t like a lot of the things I read on MMA threads either. But I’ve learned over the 5 years I’ve followed the sport that most MMA fans don’t know a thing about religon, or politics, or anything else for the matter. 98% of them don’t even know that much about MMA when you get right down to it, so why should their remarks about religon effect me at all? I can’t even take their opinions on the middleweight division seriously half the time.
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We'll just have to agree to diasagree
Even though I think our core opinions arent so far apart. I’d argue with someone over colors in a crayon box if it came to it
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 5, 2010 12:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bigoted comments are cool but don't touch Lance...
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by The Demolition Man on Aug 4, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
Hey D'Juan
I tried to get in touch a while back. If you still wanna talk, shoot me an email at apace@princeton.edu
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 5, 2010 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I work at night so I might of been sleep.
Sorry about that man. I’ll email you tonight.
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by The Demolition Man on Aug 5, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Link???
Although, according to Chael he’s never lost at MW…
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ariel interviewed him
http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/08/05/chael-sonnen-welcomes-adversity-en-route-to-title-fight/
Well I am going to take a shot in the dark and say Chael is just trolling everyone. Shocker.
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Here the interview where he said the stuff about Lance Armstrong. It’s actually a great interview. Interview with Sonnen starts at the 49 minute mark or so.
http://hwcdn.net/t9f2y9d8/cds/private/pepe/Pepe080210.wma
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It’s probably the best Sonnen interview you will ever hear. Too bad it will only be remembered for the Armstrong quote.
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Sorry Bishop. I’m messed up
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What a shame about the moped
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