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Lights Out Radio Presented by MMAForReal.com - Episode 237: Weekend Review

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Matt and whoever else he can wrangle up will be LIVE! at 1 a.m. ET/10 p.m. PT to review Friday night's Strikeforce Challengers 10, which featured a four-woman 135-poound tournament, King of the Cage: Imminent Danger, which featured a heavyweight title fight between Tony Johnson and Daniel Cormier and a junior welterweight title fight between Bobby Green and Daron Cruickshank, and Saturday's War on the Mainland which featured three championship fights and notables such as Tim Sylvia, Paul Buentello, Jens Pulver, Thales Leites and Matt Horwich.

To participate in what should be quite the bizarre show, dial (347) 202-0934 or leave a question or comment here in the show thread and we'll address it on the air.

SBN coverage of War On The Mainland

SBN coverage of King of the Cage - Imminent Danger

SBN coverage of Strikeforce Challengers 10: Riggs vs. Taylor

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I wasn’t expecting a show tonight, that’s for sure, but it’s a pleasant surprise.

I didn’t watch any of the Disaster on the Mainland show (apparently, the attendance was only a few hundred, and I’m sure not all of that was paid) as I went to an indy wrestling show near Orlando. I know, I know, but indy wrestling can be much better than the crap you see on TV, plus it’s always a lot more fun and personable. Plus, I hung out with people I knew.

I haven’t even really looked at the thread for the Mainland show, except that I know the main event is still going on, and that apparently the event is as TRBL as everyone predicted.

I just want to say that I DEMAND Forrest go on one of his epic rants, and I demand the target be Bryan Alvarez and his complete sham of a recap of this show, which consists of not much recapping at all (he flat out says that “I won’t lie, I watched almost none of this.” concerning the CO-MAIN EVENT and spending most of the recap slobbering all over the nuts of Matt Horwich for reasons that I can’t even comprehend in all of the drooling paragraphs he spent on his fight and the aftermath.

I must hear Forrest roast Alvarez for delivering one of the worst recaps of anything I’ve ever seen in my entire life.

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Can we get a shout out to Big John for stopping that Buentello fight promptly so we could go directly from watching that slop to listening to LOR?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Question

Which was better… Moosin in May or the Mainland show? It sounds like Moosin was actually much better!

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Moosin.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Man

I now wish I would have stayed in and watched this show instead of going out and about; I usually enjoy watching car crashes like this.

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The highlight of the show was the ring girls. That’s all you need to know.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Did they legit look good or did they look like “local strippers from the highway truckstop nearby”?

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was one on there that legitmatley had the best figure of any ring girl I’ve ever seen.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

hands down Moosin

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moosin actually had entertaining fights.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

They made a fun night with really bad fighters

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest sums it up with one word.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

The best fighters on the card were Machado’s cornermen.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

This radio show is already more entertaining than the fights were tonight.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

In Georgia they sometimes use a Gavel

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

“It’s just painful! It doesn’t cause injury!”

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Quadros is even worse than Bas on commentary.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

This just in!

SI_JoshGross: Tim Sylvia will defend his new PWP title against Pedro Rizzo.

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Fans have waited years for this match-up as well

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Monte Cox actually had it in Tim Sylvia’s origanal UFC contract that he couldn’t fight Pedro Rizzo.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

did not know this. Why? Because of Rizzo’s leg kicks?

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Monte Cox thought that it was a horrible matchup for Tim back then. Pedro was one of the top heavyweights in the world back then.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Lopez is taking lessons from Ed Soares.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Rizzo still hasn’t got paid for beating Ken Shamrock

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

You know, people who do steroids have a history of gasing out……..

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

7 children with 8 women

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Pedro?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

no Shawn Kemp

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t know how to use a condom?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

How is it possible to have 7 kids with 8 women? Half babies?

by Matt Bishop on Aug 15, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

flip that around 8 kids 7 women. Same with Henry

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't touch Travis Henry

11 children 12 women HOF stuff

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

But if Jens just went to Brazil and trained his BJJ………….

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Severn recently got a KO. He trying to feed his kids Forrest

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

The problem with Jens is he never had a good jaw. Any jobber who landed a clean shot on him could knock him out.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Forrest why are you comparing two different era’s? Frank was really good in his day and age.

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

He couldn’t wrestle back then either. He almost lost to Jeremy Horn, for crying out loud.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Babe Ruth would suck in Baseball now then. Does that change the fact he was a great player

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

They were good for their time. Doesn’t mean they were good though. A Model A Ford was a great car for it’s day.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one would compare a Model T to a Lexus. Why compare Coleman to Lesnar?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not comparing fighters. I was just defending Frank Shamrock and the era he fought in. I hate comparing old athletes to newer ones

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frank Shamrock retired to avoid fighting Bas Rutten again.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mo Smith couldn’t carry Cro Cop’s jock strap, and that’s coming from someone who generally enjoyed watching Mo Smith fight back in the day.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Fat just spilling off those shorts

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Remember when people wanted Jason Lambert to get a title shot against Chuck Liddell? Remember when he was the favorite against Rashad Evans?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Jon Fitch doesn’t need to feed his kids…

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey, he’s about to get married.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just thought Forrest would appreciate that

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guys you might be able to watch Rob Broughton. He is really bad

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I think there have been some old Full Contact Fighter articles about Dan Severn and working fights

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Severn had that fight in Australia that was clearly a work.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Somebody call the amber lamps!

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

The wheels are coming off….

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

That was cold blooded Forrest……. LOL

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

He droped a F-BOMB

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

It was so smooth

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Snap!!!

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

I don’t know what to say that I sort of caused Forrest to drop an F-bomb!

Yeah, Bryan is atrocious when he talks about MMA. Pro wrestling, he’s fine, but mixed martial arts, hell no. He should stick with roasting Total Nonstop Action instead.

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by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

This show is so much more entertaining than War on the Mainland………..

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t forget, these girls had to do medicals inbetween the fights as well.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I was a bit perturb to hear that Strikeforce outsourced their undercard to Rage In The Cage. They didn’t construct the undercard, RITC did! They can’t promote fights on the smallest level

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

They pretty much always farm out their undercards to local promoters.

by Matt Bishop on Aug 15, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do this pretty much anytime they go outside of California.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

IMO

This is just the very base of many of their issues. If you can’t generate interest localy how can you make money? How can you develop new prospects? To me this is a base to many of their problems

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

They run everything like a local promotion. Because that’s what Strikeforce is.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously and I am not BS’ing There are two local promoters here in Georgia that does a better job then Strikeforce

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

*do

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen vs Marquardt was exciting to watch live, because Marquardt was such a heavy favorite and no one gave Sonnen a chance. Watching it now, it’s just another fight.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

What happened to Carina Damm’s looks?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

She draws well on TV

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:03 AM EDT reply actions  

They aren’t keen on Sarah Kaufmann because she buries them every time she gets on the mike.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Forrest just went there.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Brain Caraway is going to lose on Miesha Tate’s birthday.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Brian Caraway is going to lose too.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Miesha Tate also has an ass, Forrest.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Was that a dig at Neil?

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Her ass makes up for it Forrest.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

When the lights are turned off…

Oh wait, should I be this crass and crude? Um, nevermind!

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could put up with that nose.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I seem to recall you saying Werdum wasn’t a thinker before the Fedor fight Forrest.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Forrest you HAVE to do your Nogueira impression

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:15 AM EDT reply actions  

YUS!

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Shivello is horrible.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree Matt. KOTC puts on a lot of fights and has entertaining match-ups. Just really bad fighters, but they kind of maximize their potential

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Prelims

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Santiago vs Misaski 2 is actually a quality fight. The prelims in Houston are just horrible.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

What Was That?

I have no idea what Bishop said there where he rolled his R’s!

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Quit being a punk Bishop. Be a man!

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Ouch

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Lord. Is she hot at least?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That is TRBL, I agree. Not that I’m a fan of tattoos in general (I know, I said that last night too and I got roasted for the opinion, but) but what a waste of money.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh...

Good to know that I mean enough to the show to get a courtesy call/email.

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by -Neil- on Aug 15, 2010 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

OR NOT

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by -Neil- on Aug 15, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neil gettin left out tonight!

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

A roadtrip with Bishop, Neil (well, maybe not him after tonight…) and Forrest sounds pretty fantastic!

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 2:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I Bet

I can imagine him blowing a vuvuzela into Matt’s ear the entire time the ride up there, and in Neil’s ear the entire time the ride back to Detroit.

by Blair Russell on Aug 15, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest sounds like this on every show. What else is new?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Remember when Antoni Hardonk lost to Justin McCully on national TV?

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Juiced to the Gills

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:38 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s why he gasses

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

jk

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

People who have a history of juicing gas in epic fashion. It’s a fact.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Genet is an honest guy. He can get Carwin out of this

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

SEC violations

Insider trading

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt you profit off Shane Carwin’s BLOOD & SWEAT! He is giving you a job

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Carwin didn’t get convicted of steroids. The guy who provided him with steroids got convicted, and Carwin was named in course of the trial.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Kenny Powers! Eastbound and Down Season II

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Carwin hasn’t been charged with anything.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:46 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s not going to have to testify, as the guy has already been convicted. The trial is over Forrest.

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by Brian Mayes on Aug 15, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

UFC might just wait until Shane gets his arraignment, before taking any action

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:47 AM EDT reply actions  

That was perfect Bishop

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Leave the memories alone for Jens

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by Erich Vowell on Aug 15, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

Yeah, I meant to do it earlier but I figured better late than never!

by Matt Bishop on Aug 15, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great show tonight guys. One of your best!

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