Report: Lesnar/Velasquez signed for UFC 121 in Anaheim, Calif.
by Matt Bishop on Jul 9, 2010 11:23 PM EDT
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Ariel Helwani of MMAFighting.com is reporting that the heavyweight title bout between Brock Lesnar and Cain Velasquez has been signed for UFC 121 on Oct. 23 from Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif.
UFC president Dana White confirmed with MMA Fighting Friday night that the heavyweight title fight will take place at the yet-to-be officially announced event, scheduled for Oct. 23 at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif.
Lesnar (5-1 overall, 4-1 UFC) is coming off a second round submission win against Shane Carwin. Velasquez earned his shot at the title by beating former PRIDE heavyweight and UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira by first round TKO at UFC 110 in February. Velasquez (8-0 overall, 6-0 UFC) has finished seven of his eight opponents by TKO. His lone decision was against Cheick Kongo at UFC 99.
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Great fight.Can’t believe how many people are undervaluing Cain Velasquez in this matchup,but it is what it is.
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Fast hands do not equal knockout power
But who knows what will happen. He’s got more skill than Carwin, and cardio seemingly for days.
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Why does he have to knockout Lesnar to beat him?Why can’t he just put an outrageous pace on the man for 3 rounds and then stop him when he can’t keep up anymore?Who’s to say Lesnar just doesn’t flop when he gets hits in the face again,only this time he’s against someone with the cardio to put offense on him to legitmatley stop the fight?
Lesnar has one way to win the fight-put Velasquez on his back and work a top game.The problem is,Velasquez is far and away the best wrestler Lesnar has ever faced.Lesnar had problems with the wrestling of Randy Couture and Shane Carwin.Cain Velasquez is on a completley different level than either of those guys,when it comes to wrestling.
Velasquez has a lot more offensive options in the fight.Just being able to be comfortable on the feet is going to be a huge,huge factor.In that regard,Velasquez is light years ahead of Lesnar already.
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Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but how can you say Lesnar had trouble with Carwin’s wrestling when he really only got stuffed on one takedown? That’s the only chance he had, so I don’t think you can really make too much out of it either way.
Carwin stuffed two of Lesnar’s takedowns that I could see,and FightMetric claims Carwin stuffed three,FWIW.
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Because they can be as fast as light
But if all he’s got is some Aoki-esque punching power, it won’t do anything. I agree that people are undervaluing Velasquez, but you’re overvaluing him in the same way. The ONLY way for Lesnar to win is to get on top? Velasquez got dropped by Kongo, who isn’t exactly throwing “bombz”, and a five round fight is a long time to go without getting caught sooner or later by those big ol’ hands.. and all of the meat that’s behind ’em.
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running train again…
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by RearNakedPoke on Jul 10, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Kongo is a brutal power puncher with extremely good accuracy and only managed to buckle Cain’s knees before being dumped on his ass with a double leg.Lesnar’s greatest accomplishment in the standup realm was to drop Randy Couture with a shot to the base of the neck,and that plus 5,000 hammerfists from hell still didn’t put a 45 year old guy “out”.
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Kongo is a brutal power puncher with extremely good accuracy
Wait, what? I’m as big a fan of Kongo as anyone, but last I checked he hasn’t went out and ran train on anyone standing in a long time, if ever. And just look at yourself: you’re getting down on Lesnar’s pitter-patter hammerfists, in an argument about Cain Velasquez.
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Cain Velasquez’s power has only been questioned because of two fights-the Kongo and Ben Rothwell fights.Kongo has only ever been finished by Gilbert Yvel-in a fight where he was horribly,horribly gassed out-and Frank Mir,where he was quickly subbed.People get on Cain for not putting away Rothwell quickly,totally forgetting that he stood up to about 12-13 minutes of steady offense from Andre Arlovski before going down.Nobody got on Andre for taking that long to put away Rothwell.
And FWIW,FightMetric had Kongo rated as one of the Top 5 most accurate strikers in the UFC.You can put whatever value in that you want.
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Accurate, probably, but accuracy doesn't equate to power
Kongo is tough, and so is Rothwell, but you can say the same thing about Lesnar, at least to a lesser degree if nothing else. Look, my point is that yes, Velasquez has good hands, and very fast hands at that, but he doesn’t have the sick power behind them that other heavyweights (or even light-heavyweights) do. Does he have the ability to put Lesnar on his ass? Absolutely. Could he rain down shots for days and not get tired? Yeah. But Carwin put the screws to Lesnar pretty damn hard and he kept his witts about him, so I’m not so convinced that Velasquez is going to put him out.
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But why does Velasquez have to KO Lesnar to win?Why can’t he just put a verocious pace on Lesnar,wear the man down,and either stop him when he can’t keep up anymore (which is Velasquez’s MO) or just win a very dominant,clear cut decision?
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He doesn't have to
But it’s likely that at some point or another he’d get caught by some big sloppy hand coming at him. I realize that Lesnar isn’t exactly a world-class striker, but five rounds is a long time to go without getting caught, and Velasquez isn’t fighting a Kongo level grappler.
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There’s definetly a chance that Lesnar could hit him and put him away.There’s always that chance in any fight.But I don’t think getting your knees buckled by Kongo is any indication that Lesnar is going to be able to decapitate you.For crying out loud,people clamored for years that Fedor had a bad jaw due to Fujita rocking him with an absolute bomb that landed right on the temple.He faced plenty of good strikers and legit power punchers since then and none of them fazed him in the least.Take that FWIW.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 11, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, very true
But I’m still trying to figure out why you’re so hell-bent on convincing people that Velasquez is going to absolutely dominate Lesnar, considering their comparable level of skill ;)
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Hey,Lesnar could very well win.I just don’t like this overwhelming notion among fans that Lesnar is going to walk through Velasquez.I honestly believe Cain is a better striker,a better wrestler and has better cardio.I also think he has a way better clinch game,which is going to pay dividends in a five round fight.
The same people who say “Lesnar by first round KO” are the same people who said “Lil Nog by whatever he wants” in the Brilz fight.I was online saying Brilz was a tough dude and a bad matchup for Rogerio,and had people flat out tell me that Brilz was a can.These are the same people who watch Lesnar get beat half to death by Shane Carwin,then submit Carwin when he’s near cardiac arrest,and proclaim Lesnar unbeatable.This makes me scratch my head.
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proclaim Lesnar unbeatable
He’s not unbeatable, but when he takes out the widely recognized #1 threat to his gold strap I think it’s acceptable for me forecast his downfall as being distant.
Everyone has a chance, that’s just common sense. Brock is very good at increasing his percentages is simply my opinion. Velasquez is a stud, but Lesnar is a genetic thing of rare beauty one see’s maybe once in a lifetime… There’s plenty of room on his nuts for you too :)
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by RearNakedPoke on Jul 12, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
But why is Carwin the only guy out there that’s going to beat him?Just because he’s real big and hits hard?That’s about Carwin’s only real attributes.Have you ever watched his fight with Neal Wain?His defense is horrible and his offensive wrestling is nothing to write home about,either.
Going by what we have actually seen in the cage,I’d have to say Velasquez is the most well rounded,best equipped heavyweight in the UFC right now.Dos Santos would be a close second,though we really haven’t seen his ground game yet,and Lesnar would be a solid third.
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But why is Carwin the only guy out there that’s going to beat him?
I never said only, i made out that he’s the likeliest because he is quite comparable to Brock in a lot of areas and has tremendous power that is unrivalled in the division.
Velasquez on the merits and facets of being an MMA fighter is by a far country mile the best, but son that don’t matter shit if he’s giving up 25lb at weigh in which is gonna grow by another 15/20lb overnight in my humble opinion… It’s merely my line of thought, I could be very wrong but as Neil has pointed out so well on a few occasions, 5 rounds is an awful long time for him to avoid getting sledged and dry humped…
we’ll have to wait and see :)
ps. GSP is a better all round fighter than the Spider but you know who’d take a catchweight fight, and why…. same story here imo
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by RearNakedPoke on Jul 13, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP would dry hump Anderson Silva for 25 minutes,because he’s a vastly superior wrestler,weight difference be damned.
Velasquez is a far better,more complete fighter than Brock Lesnar.Lesnar would have to land the best punch of his career to beat Velasquez.I wouldn’t bet on that.
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by Brian Mayes on Jul 13, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, you keep making it out like Lesnar’s only way to win is to get some lucky punch. That’s just as awful hyperbole as the idea that Lesnar is going to absolutely steam-roll Velasquez.
And no, GSP wouldn’t be able to lay on Silva for five rounds. He may not have that great of grappling, but Silva is huge. HUGE. Four inches of height, not to mention that all the extra weight GSP would have to put on isn’t going to do a whole lot of good when he gets a Schilt-esque sprawl from the man towering over him.
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GSP would dry hump Anderson Silva for 25 minutes
and we’ll wait and see with the HW’s :)
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by RearNakedPoke on Jul 14, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Cain may have great wrestling but can he get that big gorilla off him when he decides to take him down. I have a hard time picturing Cain stuffing brocks take downs. Kinda like my a$$ i just cant see it
Kinda like my a$$ i just cant see it
lol, fucking sweet dude
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by RearNakedPoke on Jul 10, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s look at this another way-Carwin gets the stoppage on Lesnar in that first round when they’re on the mat.Everyone and their brother would be picking Carwin over Velasquez right now in that matchup,in a fight where Carwin would most likely die of cardiac arrest.“OMG dude!Carwin would hit Velasquez and it would be OVER!Didn’t you see what Kongo did to Cain?”
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