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Like it or not, freak show fights prove MMA still more business than sport

I love the sporting aspect of MMA and love seeing top fighters fight each other. But I have to admit, the potential of fights between Mariusz Pudzianowski and Kimbo Slice and Tim Sylvia and Hong-Man Choi at a Moosin event in October has me greatly intrigued.

It seems like freak shows fights, which were almost exclusive to Japan for a long time, are seeping into America as mixed martial arts becomes passé in Japan, a telling sign that MMA is still much more business than it is sport.

And there's not necessarily anything wrong with that, either.

As someone who followed both PRIDE and UFC back in the day, I accepted freak show fights in PRIDE because I understood why they were done: Business. It's tough to complain about a fight when it does such big business. It was a freak show fight, albeit in K-1, between Bob Sapp and Akebono that drew 54 million viewers. That's big business, as more people watched that one fight than have watched the five EliteXC/Strikeforce shows on CBS combined.

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So Japan became known as the home of freak show and spectacle fights, as both K-1 and PRIDE presented many, especially each year on New Year's Eve, where the race for television ratings between K-1 parent company FEG and PRIDE parent company Dream Stage Entertainment was a heated one. This produced fights with the likes of Andy and Bobby Ologun, Kan Kaneko, Choi, Akebono and Giant Silva, to name a few. Not to mention one of the ultimate freak show fights between 400-pound Butterbean and 150-pound Genki Sudo at Dynamite!! 2003, a throwback to the 1998 fight at PRIDE 3 between the 170-pound Daiju Takase and the 600-plus-pound Emmanuel Yarborough.

Even the venerable Royce Gracie took part in one, beating Akebono at K-1 Dynamite!! 2004.

With better U.S. exposure, PRIDE became known for their freak show fights and lived by that mantra until its dying day, when it presented Zuluzinho against Butterbean on its final show.

The void wasn't left empty for long, however.

Last year, DREAM picked up right where PRIDE left off, offering the "Super Hulk Tournament" with competitors such as Sapp, Choi, Ikuhisa Minowa, Jan Nortje and former American League MVP Jose Canseco. Not to mention the fight at K-1 Dynamite!! 2008 between Bob Sapp and a fighter portraying the Japanese anime character Kinnikuman.

Now, it appears Moosin is giving this philosophy a try in the United States.

Quite frankly, it's obvious to see why they would pursue fights like this: They make money. I know I'll already be buying the pay-per-view, if not going to Chicago for the show if everything materializes, and I'm probably not the only one. It's just captivating to watch. Now, I'm not saying the UFC should be booking four or five freak show fights a year, but smaller promotions looking to make a name for themselves and potentially make some money should do everything within their power to do so. Obviously the pure sport does not sell in this country, so I commend Moosin for going outside the box and making the best use of what attractions they have signed.

It's why EliteXC valued Kimbo and Gina Carano so greatly. They made that company, otherwise essentially worthless, viable on American network television. And let's call a spade a spade: Carano wasn't a great ratings draw for EliteXC because she was a great fighter. It's because she's a beautiful woman. Same premise for Kimbo. It's why Herschel Walker and Dave Batista are such hot commodities now. A lack of attractions is why Strikeforce is in jeopardy of not getting another CBS show. They don't have the horses to draw on network television (and the brawl doesn't help matters, either). None of the company's current champions are currently worth a single dime on CBS (although that's not to say they can't be, because the potential is there), and the April 17 ratings prove that. Right now, the cupboard is bare. Walker is the only mainstream attraction they currently have, and at 47, he's not going to be around for long. Bobby Lashley is a draw to the wrestling community, but not the general public. The same probably can be said about Batista.

If the opportunity came for Strikeforce to book Kimbo against Batista or Walker and they did because that's what it took to get back on CBS, there's no way I could blame them for doing so. 

Even UFC president Dana White, adamantly against freak show fights, is getting in on the act, signing a self-admitted freak show fight for UFC 118 where Randy Couture will fight former heavyweight boxing champion James Toney.

Even though we all want MMA to be run like a sport, the simple fact is today, mixed martial arts is 10 percent sport and 90 percent business. Like it or not, the UFC is more like the WWE than it is the NFL.

And as WWE Chairman Vince McMahon has said many times: "It's all about the money."

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Marginal occurence really.

"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

by 3PA on Jul 13, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

As in: certain freak fights took the spotlight in PRIDE, the biggest MMA org in the world.

Now: they desperately hope to steal the spotlight from the UFC for a few quick seconds with what they put together.

"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

by 3PA on Jul 13, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

certain freak fights

"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

by 3PA on Jul 13, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freak show fights only work in Japan

which proves nothing to me.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jul 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

They work in America, too.

by Matt Bishop on Jul 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

See Couture vs Toney

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 14, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the only difference there (and I know Dana himself called this fight a freak show) is that Toney has Hall of Fame credentials in his base combat sport and was, just four years ago, ranked as an upper world class heavyweight in boxing. If that’s a freak show then I don’t know even know how to categorize a fight involving Butterbean or Jose Canseco.

by Rich Wyatt on Jul 14, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toney has Hall of Fame credentials in his base combat sport and was, just four years ago, ranked as an upper world class heavyweight in boxing. If that’s a freak show then I don’t know even know how to categorize a fight involving Butterbean or Jose Canseco.

That is all.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jul 14, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a 41 year old,punch drunk,out of shape washed up boxer who’s never fought MMA before up against a guy who’s a borderline Top Ten Light Heavyweight.

It may not feature a “freak” like Butterbean or Jose Canseco,but it’s still a freakshow.

Oh,and James Toney was never a great heavyweight.He was just a really,really fat super middleweight that gave some solid guys hard fights,due to his awkward style.That’s the reason why he can’t get a fight to save his life these days.He’s impossible to look good against.He name doesn’t draw PPV buys,and he’s not worth either looking bad against or possibly loosing a BS decision to.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 14, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much agree. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider it a freak show fight only because James actually had a proficiency in a base discipline. I also agree that he’s washed up in boxing. His debut is mostly significant to me because of two things: 1. He has the best pure boxing skills of any man to ever compete in MMA thus far. 2. It was only about 3 and a half years ago that the mainstream boxing press (forget the sanctioning bodies) considered him a top 10 heavyweight in the world. Is it a big-time mismatch on paper, though? You bet it is.

by Rich Wyatt on Jul 14, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It don’t take much to be a Top Ten heavyweight in boxing these days.James has a skill set like Archie Moore in that he’s going to give anyone a tough fight.Unlike Moore though,he’s a lot harder to hit consistently,which is why he’s found some level of success at heavyweight.Then again,Archie Moore might have been heavyweight champion if he hadn’t made his bid when he was 150 years old and fought guys like Rocky Marciano and Floyd Patterson.Moore had balls.If you look at the career of Moore and then look at the career of Randy Couture,they are much alike.

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by Brian Mayes on Jul 14, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, Brian, there aren’t many of us old school boxing fans left. LOL….I know who to come to for some boxing talk now.

by Rich Wyatt on Jul 14, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will disagree slickrick00

 James Toney is a former champion boxer. If you really examine the orgs listed above, there is a central theme. Pride= out of business, Elite XC=out of business, K-1 Dynamite= out of business and Dream= soon too be out of business. UFC used to be a freak show fight company as well, but, the Zuffa ownership has legitimised MMA in America for the most part. My point should be obvious, if Moosin decides to be the US based freak show circuit, I expect them to fail miserably. If this type of matchup was so appealing, then why have the UFC and many others gotten away from it? If anyone tries to sell Couture vs Toney as freakshow, I’ll laugh. They both have olympic pedigree in a respected combat sport. The same could be said for Akebono, he was one of the most decorated sumo wrestlers of our time. So, for his pedigree alone I afford him a pass. Jose Conseco, Herschel Walker, Minowa, Hong Man Choi, Zulu and now throw Kimbo into the fold are truly freak show fighters. Entertainment alone isnt enough reason to keep any of the listed fighters. One of these guys will get hurt badly or even killed. Then what will the aftershocks of that be? It would set MMA back 10-15 years.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Jul 14, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hate freakshow fights. The North American market is not like the japanese market.
With the emphasis on more regulation, freakshows shouldn’t be booked much less sanctioned.

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by villin on Jul 14, 2010 1:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Freak show fights are part of MMA, and UFC history, simple as that

  I guess no one remembers the Sumo wrestler that got his teeth put into the second row, or Emmanual Yarboro? Freak show stuff has been in MMA since day one in the US.

     It just took a vacation, thats all.

by oggsmash on Jul 14, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That was UFC 1 though. The whole occurence was labeled ‘freakshow’.

And people probably thought Teila would bring out the 1000-slaps attack, E Honda-style.

"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

by 3PA on Jul 14, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but it is my point, Mixed martial arts in the USA was considered a freak show from beginning to end

  for a long while. I do agree the stuff in Japan is over the top, but if you ever watch any japanese TV and see some of their commericials, its pretty clear thier culture is alot “different” from ours anyway.

by oggsmash on Jul 14, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have a point

 But, when was the last freakshow fight in the UFC? Where there was a weight or skill level discrepency like Japanese MMA? You can’t unless you look way back. The modern UFC freakshow consists of Pedigreed fighters in other combat sports. Everyone, myself included criticised Zuffa for bringing in Brock. I thought he was gonna get schooled, well look at how it turned out. Kimbo is the only legit Freakshow fighter to walk into the octagon in recent memory, if you look back a few years, Sean Gannon preceeded Kimbo into the Octagon. Gannon gained notoriety on youtube for kicking Kimbo’s ass in a bare knuckle fight. Gannon lasted all of 50 seconds with Brandon Lee Hinckle. So, the romantic notion of a successful US run freakshow org is laughable, and that is being generous and kind hearted. The last thing MMA needs is this kind of movement. The days of Humancockfighting are over. MMA will never get regulated in Ontario and NY State with this kind of promotion gaining public favor. This is exactly what the politicians that are thwarting regulation hold on too. Wake up.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Jul 14, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like freakshow fights.

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by Anthony Pace on Jul 14, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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