Report: Antonio Rogerio Nogueira To Face Rampage Jackson Next
by Kelvin Hunt on Jul 1, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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The the word according to Tatame:
“It’s set that he’ll be back in September, and rumors point that his opponent might be Quinton Jackson. It’d be a great fight for Rogério, he’s a former UFC champion and a victory over him will move us pretty close to the title. The UFC only has top athletes and Quinton Jackson is really dangerous.
I called for this fight after the guys both fought on the UFC 114 card, Jackson losing and Nogueira winning a razor thin split decision. It only makes sense in that both guys are contenders, but performed rather lackluster in their respective fights. So a fight between the two separates the contender from the pretender so to speak. Not only that, but it would be a good fight to watch as both guys do not hesitate to engage. I think Rampage should have the edge as he'll want to keep this fight standing. While Nogueira has good boxing, Jackson has the edge in power. Nogueira probably will not be able to take this fight to the ground unless he pulls guard. Who do you like in this fight?
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i’ll take him but by no means am i confident…great fight
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yo Kelvin also rumored is,
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens and Joey Beltran vs. Matt Mitrione.
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by RearNakedPoke on Jul 1, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
those fights been rumored for a while now…I think Guillard/Stephens is signed.
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Wow dude looses once and ho goes from top ten to spectacle?
I really don’t know who would be favored in the fight.
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by doonerthesooner on Jul 1, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Loss to Rashad was telling
Some might attribute Jackson’s loss to Evans to ring rust or good gameplan and execution from Rashad, and I would agree that was part of it (along with having lost part of his edge through his Hollywood detour), but I also think Jackson is also gotten old, fast. He can still physically impose himself on a lot of fighters, but I don’t think he has the speed or skills to take out Nogueira. If Rashad can get the better of Rampage on standing up then a skilled boxer like Lil’ Nog will as well, and Nog has better ground skills as well. Rampage would have a marginal puncher’s chance of knocking out Nog, but I certainly don’t see him winning a decision.
I don't know,
doesn’t Lil Nog have a history of shitting the bed when he’s favored? If Jackson gets serious he’ll be good for another few years before he starts to really deteriorate in my opinion. I really think it’s his failure to evolve that hurts him. I think he only leaves himself one way to win a fight and if that doesn;t work he’s got nothing.
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by doonerthesooner on Jul 1, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know what I attribute it to?
His mediocre gym. Wolfslair is not where he should be.
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certainly doesn't help.
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by doonerthesooner on Jul 1, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If it's a boxing match
Rampage is second in defensive boxing in MMA behind only BJ Penn. If Nog wants to fight standing up, he’s going to get tagged.
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But one of the worst at defending leg kicks
I suspect it will be an interesting fight, and will tell alot about whether Quentin wants to continue fighting or not.
Leg kicks aren’t a big part of Nog’s arsenal.
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I dont remember Forrest crushing anyone with em either....
Till he fought Rampage
They've always been Forrest's great weapon
He doesn’t have power in anything, but he can score for days. Go back to the first Tito Ortiz fight, the Hector Ramirez fight
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He only hit Tito with about 3 kicks the first fight.
As for Hector…..well he is hector.
I am not saying Forrest isnt a decent kicker, he is, I am saying all it takes is to be decent for them to work against Jackson.
and you are 100% incorrect, Forrests Greatest weapon
is his ground game, which he seems almost reluctant to attempt to use.
If he doesn't use it, how is it his greatest weapon?
And you’ve bought into Robert Drysdale’s hype too much. Forrest can’t keep people from posturing up worth a shit.
When was the last time he subbed someone? The Shogun fight? And before that I think he got Chael Sonnen in a triangle, but who hasn’t?
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actually I go by what I see
and his ground game when he uses it is very good. Ground game also isnt just submission, its also completely dominating a bigger stronger fighter positionally as well, sort of like he did with Rampage.
Forrest showed some decent ability in the 2nd round of the Jackson fight, but I wasn’t overwhelmed by anything he did. Jackson doesn’t have a Noguiera-esque guard by any means.
I’m not discounting Forrest’s game at all, I’m just saying it’s nowhere near where Robert Drysdale would have you believe.
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I think it probably is, but
Pure grappling ability/skill doesnt always translate directly to MMA use.
Jackson has no guard, but is pretty darned hard to hold down. Forrest made it look easy. I was impressed.
Not even at his best, and he's far from that now
Rampage could hurt Nog dirty boxing with some short hooks, but I think that unlikely.
Watch the Shogun fight
If you’re as fast as Noguiera is, he has to trade with you. It won’t be anything like the Luis Cane fight.
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