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Legitimate Or Ploy? Koscheck Talks Steroids And Testing For Georges St. Pierre Fight

UFC welterweight fighter Josh Koscheck(right) and GSP tangle back at UFC 74.

Josh Koscheck has gotten pretty good at raising the ire of fans and other fights, but he may have taken things a bit further recently in a piece done with MMAJunkie.  Koscheck basically said he was told thatUFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre was a steroid and HGH user based on hearsay information from BJ Penn's camp.  Check it:

From what I've heard from other fighters in other camps, yeah, [St-Pierre] has done steroids and HGH, possibly," Koscheck told MMAjunkie.com(www.mmajunkie.com). "I don't know. This is just on hearsay information that I've gotten.

"B.J. Penn and his camp gave me a little phone call. They were saying, 'Yeah, he's on steroids. He's this; he's that.' I said, 'Yeah, there's a possibility.' The guy is pretty ripped all year round."

Therefore Koscheck has proposed that he and GSP be subjected to Olympic style testing(blood testing) leading up to their fight later this year, similar to the same testing that caused the mega-boxing match between Pac-man and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to get scrapped:

"I would love to do it; why not?" Koscheck asked. "I think Olympic-style testing would be great for our sport. At least you do it a couple times out from the fight.

"I think it will be a great idea."

Of course GSP agreed to the testing:

I have no problem; any time he wants," St-Pierre said. "I stand for that more than anybody else. I stand for this, and I just hope it's going to happen soon. I know a lot of people cheat in this sport, and it's unacceptable.

"I'm for random drug testing. There's nobody in the UFC that agrees more with random testing then me. ... Anything they want, I don't care. I give my body to science."

"I'm not a coward," St-Pierre said. "Anyone that uses steroids is a cheater. I don't need to cheat to win. I am like I am, and I'm somebody that is not a coward.

"I'm not afraid of Josh Koscheck, and I don't need to cheat to beat him. I'm going to beat him by the book and using the right way."

All of this is great, but I have to wonder if this is just a tactic for Koscheck to try and play mind games with GSP or what.  I mean I could see Koscheck sitting in his room by himself thinking..."what could I do to stir up some controversy for this fight" since he says he does that very thing at times.  I mean IF this type of testing is done for this fight, it would set a precedent and the UFC would more than likely have to foot that very expensive bill.  I wonder if Dana White would support both of these guys in doing the Olympic style testing?  Ariel Helwani, if you are reading this you already know what to ask Dana White!

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Being that they are not competing in the Olympics

the whole thing should be a non issue.

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by _Felix_ on Jun 8, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it myself, with all the alegations that were made about numouros fighters.

And it’s kinda like a fuck you to boxing since that’s what held up the Pac Man fight

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by doonerthesooner on Jun 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well..I understand that

but the testing they do right now is pretty much a joke….if they are going to do testing…they may as well do a legitimate test….and that’s olympic style testing…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jun 8, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see the need for it

if guys were getting jacked like Overeem (not saying he is since he tested clean) on a more frequent basis.
Overall there doesn’t seem to be a roids epidemic in MMA. Hearsay and unfounded allegations should not be the basis for instituting it.

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by _Felix_ on Jun 8, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

but there was nothing gut unfounded allegations and hearsay in MLB before Canseco started talking….

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jun 8, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

cyclists figured out how to beat the tests not very long after they started….

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on Jun 8, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're not an idiot you'll test clean

Unless you’re being tested all year long randomly. People need to understand that ‘roids don’t make you a monster by themselves, they allow you to train like a fiend and build up a crazy big body in time that you wouldn’t be able to otherwise. So you do it for however long before the testing begins, cycle off, and even though you’re not as huge as you would be for fight time, you’ve still got some big mass. So basicly, yeah go for it, it won’t make a diference if they’re using, unless they don’t know how to cycle.

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by -Neil- on Jun 8, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

koscheck is smart in asking for this. plus we pretty much know that gsp "greased" his body up for fight with penn.

did they not institute a policy that says you have to shower within a certain time frame before fight time. i thought i heard something of that. if i’m wrong someone correct me.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

second fight with penn.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

they greased him up in between rounds…but prior to the fight…there is no proof.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jun 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's even worse. it can't possibly be legal? the ref should have said something.

or someone in penn’s corner should have caught it out of his eye.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know when they walk in, and the ref checks him?

Last I checked, there aren’t any dudes walking in with clumps of lube on their body. It’s not hard to tell when someone has been greasing, and all this crazy talk about “soaking in vaseline” and “grease coming out of their pores” is goofy as all hell. I think the whole “greasegate” thing has been blown way out of proportion, and to think that it still gets talked about today.. well, it goes to show how much weight BJ crying about a cornerman making a mistake carries.

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by -Neil- on Jun 8, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know penn has power when he can get an immediate rematch with edgar.

i’m not even an edgar fan but still thinks he deserves to fight one other person other than penn. someone told me a week after that fight they knew penn had some nasal infection that would affect him. i did not believe him. tell me this before the fight happens and i’ll take a chance at making 600 dollars for just 100. those odds do not come around more than three times a year in nevada for mma.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree but he should still get one chance to fighjt someone else. have penn fight maynard

this is coming from a b.j. penn fan too. i think penn is going ot go crazy on edgar like he did vs sanchez. penn with late second round tko. he will have a huge scar somewhere.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

edgar will have huge scar and since the fight has already been signed

that is what i see happening to edgar.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

winner of that probably gets winner of penn/edgar.

so i want penn vs maynard.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree but he should still get one chance to fighjt someone else.

You mean like how Machida got another fight before the second Shogun fight?

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by -Neil- on Jun 8, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i only heard penn and his camp ask for a rematch

i had alot of people with me including dana white (who i don’t like) agree with me. you have a good memory neil. plus what can i say i’m selfish in some regards. that was 375 dollars down the drain. actually 475 down the drain if include initial 100, rua +375. the blogs were with me too. glad he did win the second time because evans vs rua is a better matchup for my favorite mma fighter. see it all goes in circles.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 8, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

…..cept for maybe when Akiyama did it to Saku, or when maybe Pat did it to Carlos Newton…..don’t act like visually is all it takes to tell if someone’s been greasing.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on Jun 8, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would I be shocked if GSP was on roids? Nope. But I wouldn’t be shocked if Kos was either. I think he maybe just wants to irk St. Pierre a bit.

The testing is a good thing, though.

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

BLASPHEMY!

Nah, Kanye is okay when he doesn’t sing.

That’s Nas, baby. One of the best rap songs of all time, by one of the best rappers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't think to much of it, I stopped listening to Rap in 03

And I grew up in Texas so i’m gonna go ahead and apologize for all the rap that’s come out of here since Lil Flip. Although, anybody who really likes rap that hasn’t listened to Bizzy’s solo stuff lately is fucking up.

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by doonerthesooner on Jun 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

illmatic came out in like ’92 or somethin

Gotta bunch of friends from Texas, went to either Woodrow Wilson highschool or Highland Park.

You like UGK?

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 8, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

94 dude

"I don't care, hit him with your groin!"

by 3PA on Jun 8, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s a shame classic rap doesn’t get remembered like classic rock. i love both

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 9, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

One day your here next day your gone baby,

Probably my favorite rap album of all time

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by doonerthesooner on Jun 8, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

NAS is the GOAT.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jun 8, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he is and luckily for all of us Dana White doesn’t care what Kos thinks or suggest he’s already said that he won’t allow any of Floyd’s bs so it’s a non-issue.

"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
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by Nightwhistler on Jun 9, 2010 4:57 AM EDT reply actions  

well

looks like I called it…it was a ploy.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Jun 10, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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