How Will WEC Bantamweights View Miguel Torres Now?
Just over a year ago, many fans and writers were crowning Miguel Torres the best bantamweight fighter on the planet. It was a legitimate claim as Torres had won 17 fights in a row up until that point, finishing 15 of those opponents in the same time frame. He had exhibited good stand up, an iron chin, and the ability to link submission attacks on the ground effortlessly. However, he ran into a huge right hand from then #1 contender Brian Bowles at WEC 42 and got knocked unconscious for the first time in his career. He blamed the loss on getting complacent with his training camps and made an effort to change that with his training camp as he prepared for Joseph Benavidez at this past weekend. Although tentative early, Benavidez began to push the pace as the fight went along, and the longer he was in there with the former champ the less respect he gave him. As we all know the rest of history after that point in the fight.
Is that going to be a re-occuring trend?
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With his performances(and help with the media) Torres had built this invincible aura around him. It seemed as if he could do whatever he wanted in the cage. If you wanted to stand and bang, he'd beat you there. If you wanted to take him down, he'd just submit you. However, now after suffering back to back dominating losses, will other bantamweights view him in the same light? The same fighter that ran through each opponent time and time again, or will they sense some vulnerability now?
This situation kind of reminds me of the Mirko Cro Cop KO loss to Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 70. It seemed as though that loss took some of Mirko's soul with it. It also took away the mytique and aura that Mirko once possessed, and I wonder if Torres will follow the same path? The difference between Cro Cop and Torres is that Torres is in his physical prime right(29 years old) now, whereas Cro Cop was well over the age of 30 when he made his UFC debut and began going downhill. Torres still has time to correct the flaws in his game(notably take down defense and much needed strength), but only time will tell if he's willing to do what it takes to evolve with the fight game. It's no secret that other bantamweights are gunning for the top spot. Dominick Cruz is a prime example of that. The question now is: Will other bantamweights go into fights with Torres now with less respect and more confidence in their abilities to beat him?
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Heck Yeah.
You posed the right question.
I’m almost certain the other bantamweights will look at Torres as a mark. For me, its the way he got beat. Bowles punch wasn’t lucky. Torres didn’t just get caught against Brian Bowles. Benavidez outpowered Torres, he was faster and he cut Torres awfully bad.
His next opponents will test the chin, try to re-open his forehead and take him down.
"There's nothing cool about taking punishment" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
How Will WEC Bantamweights View Miguel Torres Now?
Remember that one guy who was a monster, and scared people out of their pants before they even got in the ring? Then a few peeps beat him, and the “unbeatable” aura was gone? Mike Tyson. I still think that Torres is a good fighter, but he’s got flaws, and if guys aren’t afraid to wade in and crack his face open, his previously sterling record is going to get a little tarnished.
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Yea
but I like my Cro Cop reference better :)
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wait till fedor loses and he will. he becomes more irrelevant ever day.
if he had to fight brock lesnar, frank mir, cain velasquez or juniour dos santos on any given night he would lose two of those matches.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 8, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
ehhh guys like Fedor, Noguiera, and Jens Pulver, no matter how much they’re re-evaluated after a loss are still very much relevant.
Don’t me to get all defensive but after all the different fighters Fedor has faced and defeated while I am definitely aware that Lesnar, Mir, Carwin, Velasquez or Dos Santos has a chance of defeating Fedor, he can also defeat them.
Yeah, wait till he loses . . . oh the floodgates will open for sure. I think the word irrelevant dismisses his past. I know the fight game is what have you done for me lately but in his last 3 fights he’s had pretty much decisive wins in a sport where 1-punch can often decide the victor.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 8, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
How is jens pulver relevant?
I actually like him as a commentater. His last three losses were complete embarrassments. His legacy is secure but i don’t want to see him fight again. Please just answer this question. How does fedor do against the any of the four guys i mentioned if they fought in a month? Just consider brock lesnar as healthy as he would be when he is supposed to be ready in july.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 8, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not that I’m a huge Pulver fan, but there’s a reason why all those fighters paid a tribute to Jens after his loss. Honestly I can not make a strong argument for Jens, but I’m just throwing him respect since he was the first 155 champion and has been doing his thing.
How does Fedor compete against those four guys?
Just like yesterday, people felt Fedor has nothing to offer Arlovski.
- Lesnar pose a serious problem any fighter. But Fedor can find a way. He will be cut for sure but he can find a way. Lesnar is not this unstoppable force.
- Velasquez: Aww come on. He’s young, he’s nice, he’s undefeated but Fedor’s poise, patience and Sambo skills will definitely serve him well. We know Fedor can take a punch.
- Mir: How? I don’t know for sure, but I can see Fedor’s over hand right rocking Mir off his feet, but I can see Mir’s counter uppercut make Fedor think twice.
- Dos Santos It would be interesting. Not to dodge the question but I want to see Jr versus Velasquez. Something that is truly possible.
- Carwin vs Fedor would be a war that would shake the Octagon to the core. BUT it should be held in the Saitama Arena in Japan.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 9, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
ehh
depending on how he loses….I think the floodgates will be more about…oh..he got lucky…Fedor is still the GOAT….or he wouldn’t have loss if he didn’t get cut…you know he has paper thin skin…lol.
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He cuts awfully bad and awfully quick. Fedor stated he didn’t feel the first jab that Rogers connected with, but it sliced his nose quick and easy.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 9, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions

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