Post-Fight Rundown: UFC 111
- An inside left and a battery of uppercuts was the beginning of the end for Frank Mir 2.0 in his fight last night with Shane Carwin. Mir dropped looking for a desperate kimura (whilst sitting beneath his opponent) or a leg to grab on to, but Carwin rained down anvils and left Mir kissing the mat. This was possibly the best Mir we’ve ever seen and Carwin wrecked him. Sure, Mir’s boxing defense leaves something to be desired, but the clinch was where this fight was decided and "The Engineer" let Mir know that was his domain. Carwin tossed even this bulky version of the former champ against the cage and had his way with him, so we know the new number one contender can move weight around the cage. Carwin might not have the pedigree or polish of other contenders in his division, but he certainly poses the most legitimate threat Brock Lesnar has yet seen to his heavyweight title. One punch from Carwin and the lights go out in Georgia.
- Ben Saunders, who I erroneously picked to win against Jon Fitch because "it felt right", showed guts but also that he’s just not equipped—at least yet—to break into the upper tier of welterweights. The logjam of wrestlers at the top end of the division might be to be a wall for him to climb over but he’s young and has time to develop, so we’ll see. Fitch did exactly what most expected him to do, what I even expected him to do despite picking Saunders. He drags you down and stays on top of you; I don’t like to watch it but it wins fights.
- On that same note, Georges St. Pierre overwhelmed Dan Hardy in a far more lackluster way than anyone predicted. Yes, GSP dominated the Brit who had nothing for him. Yes, it was the smart way to fight: minimize your danger and maximize your chance of winning. But it was just hard to accept that we were watching anything more than a St. Pierre training session on the mats. As much as I hate being characterized as "bloodthirsty" because of my MMA fandom, I must admit I would have preferred GSP ripped Hardy’s arm off with the kimura in the fourth round than let it go and keep on keepin’ on. People will say that St. Pierre can’t finish fights. That’s not the problem. The frustrating thing about the king of 170 pounds is that he doesn’t mind not finishing fights. Maybe in the aftermath of the fight the very intelligent and alert Canadian’s stance on the matter will change.
- Dan Hardy had no business being in a title fight, but he acquitted himself as best he could against St. Pierre. Lesser fighters—lesser men—would have tapped with their arm contorted like that, but this was Hardy’s biggest moment and he wasn’t giving in that easy, even when people would have accepted him doing so. He won’t ever have the title with GSP on top and may not even contend again, but there are a slew of interesting fights for Hardy. Personally, I’d love to see him against Anthony Johnson after "Rumble" knocks John Howard back to the unaired portion of the card.
- I like the welterweight version of Nate Diaz. Get him a little more muscle definition, if even for aesthetic purposes, and I’ll really enjoy watching him fight at this weight.
- Dan Miragliotta is just terrible. And terribly orange.
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What are you talking bout "He does not mind not finishing fights?’ He hates that shit. I thought he should of did some gnp and do it that way
by The Bronzeville Bully on Mar 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions
A guy like GSP is fully capable of finishing a fight whenever he wants
but he takes no risks. He’d rather win a decision than do something awesome since doing something awesome might entail risk. I say this in regards to his propensity to take a guy down. Is it smart? Hell yeah. But it’s not awesome.
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 28, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, again, what are you talking? He took his back like 6 times, isnt it risky? What more do you want him, you talking like he shouldn’t use takedowns in his fights.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Mar 29, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Against Dan Hardy
no, it isn’t risky. take downs are great, mount that fucker and swing around for an armbar. i don’t care if Hardy slipped it, go for it again after you’ve GnP’d him into oblivion
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 29, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the recap Robert...just got home from church festivities and eatings, etc.
-Yes…dan Miragliotta was wack last night. He let Mir take severe destruction hits for no reason. How he didn’t see Mir was out is beyond me.
-Ehh..I wasn’t THAT impressed with Diaz…I think it was more of Markham not really caring to fight…than Diaz’s striking improving leaps and bounds…
-Ehh…GSP is just too nice…he could have broken Hardy’s arm twice but decided against it…D’Juan and I were talking as the fight was going on…at first I was like…go ahead and break it(since Hardy wouldn’t tap)…but then we were like…what would have breaking his arm have proved? He was basically toying with Hardy.
-Shane Carwin had the perfect gameplan….basically he used Lesnar’s gameplan…only standing instead of the ground though….why the hell did Mir take unnecessary punches in the face(these punches were the first time they were against the cage…where he got cut)? Anyways, putting Mir against the cage negated the striking advantage that Mir had….nicely done…and once those lunchboxes landed…it was a wrap. I take my hat on to your sir Carwin. You are the man. I still don’t like you very much though. That is all.
-I will watch Kurt Pellegrino fight whenever, whereever….dude is the new Clay Guida…only he’s much better to watch IMO. Was that throw he did on Cameos legal though? It’s a wonder if his damn neck wasn’t broken(when he had batman’s back and got slammed on his head).
-Ehh…Jim Miller…you might have gotten a gift from the judges….but that was dope ass RNC defense with one arm trapped sir. props.
-Rousimar Palhares is a BEAST with the subs. However, that was uncalled for….or maybe the referee should have be able to speak Portugese?
-Jon Fitch you are one of the most boring top fighters ever….can you please learn how to pass your opponents guard at least once? He’s the welterweight version of Matt Lindland from like 2005 or something…
-Rodney Wallace..I love you dawg…but you must lose some of that muscle mass and cut down to middleweight.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Mar 28, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Was that throw he did on Cameos legal though?
why wouldn’t it be? that was so awesome/dangerous… [glad your man is ok all the same]
after maia gets mugged, how about him and Tiqhinio? who gets a heelhook first lol
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 28, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
well
after researching…the throw isn’t illegal…because Cameos had dominant position…
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huh?
are some throws illegeal so? i had no idea… i thought it was all fair game except for gouging, biting, groin strikes, small joint manipulations (or some shit), etc…
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yea..some are
like…if Pellegrino had dominant position…and picked Cameos up and dropped him on his head like that…it would have been illegal….think Bob Sapp/Big Nog….if you go back that far…haha.
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oh cool
yea i remember seeing that, didnt realise it was illegeal tho… my bad. thanks!
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 28, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that dropping anyone on their had that way is illegal. The whole spine compacting thing, and all that.
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Um..am I only one that didn’t find Jon Fitch fight boring? What fitch does is no different from what Randy Couture, who grinds you by pressing you up the cage.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Mar 29, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn boy, do you live at church?
He let Mir take severe destruction hits for no reason.
Maybe Big Dan hates Mir’s ish-talking as much as I do ;)
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Nah
I just goto Church every Sunday….last week was youth revival which is only once a year…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Mar 30, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
If Daley beats Koscheck, I’d like to see a Hardy/Koscheck bout. The build up for that would be awesome. After everything the AKA fighters said about Hardy, the trash talk would be outstanding. And unlike GSP, Koscheck would definitely take the bait in the verbal war.
by FragglesHateKos on Mar 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
Yea
If Koscheck wins though..he should get the re-match with GSP….BUT I wouldn’t be madd if Dana White made him fight Fitch either.
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