Report: Tito Ortiz Is Out Of Liddell Fight With Neck Injury
by Kelvin Hunt on Mar 17, 2010 7:06 PM EDT
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From Fiveouncesofpain:
Sources close to the situation have recently indicated to FiveOuncesofPain.comthat multiple herniations in the neck of Ortiz prompted his removal from both the taping of The Ultimate Fighter Season 11, and his anticipated clash with fellow coach Liddell at the conclusion of the most recent season.
The rumors were running rampant about Tito not being able to finish the 11th season of TUF, so it seems as though the rumors have some validity now. Ortiz has long had problems with his back, and underwent the knife last year to try and alleviate the problem. However, he returned from the surgery to look like a shell of the shell of his former self against Forrest Griffin at UFC 106. No word on who will replace him in the Chuck Liddell bout, as they were scheduled to face one another at the end of the 11th season of TUF for a third time. Ortiz was 0-2 against the "Iceman", getting TKO'ed both times.
In other news, Ortiz reportedly was just released from the hospital after suffering from a severe bout of the flu of which Ortiz thought was swine flu. However, it was determined that was not the case.
Do you think this neck injury will put Tito out of the game for good?
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i can only hope he is...
in fact, hey Tito i’m with the kid on this one…
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Why?
You may not like him as a person, but you can’t deny he’s always brought it in the Octagon.
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 17, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
define "brought it"
he sent me to sleep against Griffin and his post fight attitude was pitiful, pathetic and unproffessional… the sooner he’s out of the game the better my man, imo anyway.
he has nothing left to offer, the Jon Joneses and Gegard Mousassis of this world are the future of the division not this wannabe… he never evolved with the sport but he always had something to cry about.
i’m sorry, but yes for me good riddance. i wont miss him
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 17, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i.e. he would stand and trade with Chuck even though it was stupid to do so, he wrecked Wandy and Vitor back in the day, had two dominating rounds with former LHW champ Griffin over 6 total rounds, was unintimidated by Machida and almost caught him, went tit-for-tat with the young lion Evans
I understand hating his personality, but Tito was a great fighter. Will you knock Chuck, Cro Cop or Coleman for never “evolving with the sport”? He never had to in his heyday, and he dominated.
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 17, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He "wrecked" Vitor?
You might want to go back and re-watch that fight bud.He eeeked out that fight by the narrowest of margins.He got his nose broke in the first round,and was nearly pounded out and stopped in the second.Vitor did all the damage in that fight.All Tito was able to do was put Vitor on his back long enough to survive and in the eyes of two judges,win two rounds,which is a bit much.At best he won the third round and made the first round competitve.
And he had one dominating round against Forrest.The rest were anywhere from competitve to complete blowouts for Forrest.
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Its been a while. I saw it on a veeeery early unleashed. But I seem to remember Tito dumping Vitor and dropping bombs from top. Thats beside my point, though. I’m trying to say he was a game fighter and he ate shots from Vitor and Chuck few others could and kept on coming. And we’re arguing about how many rounds he took from Forrest when I say its two and you say its one lol. I think he ruled the first in both fights
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 18, 2010 1:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If by "ruled" you mean
He got a takedown in the first round of the rematch,then yes.Otherwise,Forrest won that round.IIRC,I scored that fight 29-27 Griffin when I watched it live.When I went back and rewatched it,I scored it 30-26 Griffin.Ortiz did zip with the two takedowns he got in that fight.Takedown with no damage does NOT equal you winning the round,when other action takes place within the round.Espically if your opponent lands 10-15 brutal leg kicks in that round.
If I was fighting Ortiz,I’d never let it go to the cards.The fact that a judge thought he won that fight is downright scarry.
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he stood cos he hadnt a hope of taking him down and keeping him there… Gonzaga nearly caught Carwin too, but wait, howd that work out for him? there’s only one winner. Evans might have been a young lion, but he sure wasnt a good one…
i would knock Chuck but for he was sooo good at what he did, he had the wrestling but chose not to use it. similarly Cro Cop had the ground game but chose not to use it, much like Gonzaga (which just beggars belief). [Im not going to dignify any reference to Mark Coleman]
Tito was one dimensional and hey Couture mauled Belfort too, but wait, didnt he do that to Tito too on top of spanking him…
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 17, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright go ahead and knock Matt Hughes. Hendo too. The fact is you cant knock these guys because hardly any guys “evolve with the game” but rathereach successive era sees a new breed of fighter. It seems like youre degrading Tito because of his era. His skillset allowed him to be a champion of his era. And hell, Hendo is the same fighter through a decade and is still one of MMA’s elite. Not all have to be a Couture. And why do you disrespect Coleman like that? Even if he is terrible now, the mab was great in his time.
Hell, the Stones must be a terrible band because “Emotional Rescue” sucked
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 18, 2010 1:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with Robert
Though it’s not so much the fighters evolving or not evolving,it’s just the fighters getting older.Guys get older and slow down.Matt Hughes still has all the tools to be a Top 5 welterweight-he’s just slowed down with age is all.It happens to every fighter.Randy Couture is blessed with having a style that’s not predicated on speed or quick reflexes,and it hasn’t cost him,though he went through this phase where he thought he was a boxer and it cost him against guys like Lesnar and Nog.
You get past a certain age,and your reflexes start to slow down.Younger guys come along who’s reflexes are still crisp,and it shows.That’s all.If a guy like Coleman or Frye still had the reflexes and speed they did 10 or 15 years ago,they’d still be killers.Their skills are still potent,even with today’s advanced game.
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we're just different
i don’t put Hendo and Hughes in the same bracket as Tito (except for Hughes ona personality basis…). Hughes had it all pretty much and Dan is a true legend
i know what you’re getting at but i don’t buy it. not for one second. to put Coleman and great in the same sentence is just shameful…. and i make no excuses for that stance, the man was never a “mixed martial artist”
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 18, 2010 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh crap
Sorry Kelvin, I started writing my post before I saw this.
It seems like this might be it for Ortiz. He showed he was still game against Griffin, with a decent shot going in the first round. But I don’t know how severe this one is.
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no problem
it’s good to know you were on it :).
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by Kelvin Hunt on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny.........
Dave Farra at MMAfix reported it was Tito’s shoulder that was blown out,and caused him to bail.
Before that,everyone was talking STDs.
Honestly?No one knows.Personaly,I think it’s a brilliant ploy by the UFC to get people to watch this season of TUF.Hell,they led us on for nearly an entire season with “Kimbo’s coming back” last time.What’s from stopping them from putting out a rumor that Tito gets injured and is replaced by Rich Franklin?Everyone tunes in every week to see what exactly happened…………..and it never comes to pass.
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good point
Dave Farra’s prolly my favorite MMA reporter, too
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by Anthony Pace on Mar 17, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with RNP and Brian
Tito is a draw, but that’s about it. He hasn’t been competitive in years, but he’s still so F’ng cocky and arrogant that he thinks he’s the greatest.. he just has really bad luck with judges, and keeps running into injuries. Cracked skull anyone?
I poo-poo’d on Tito when he came back, and I stand by that now. He’s essentially a has-been at this point, and the one-trick pony is crippled.
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FWIW
Outside of Ken Shamrock (who doesn’t count at this point),Tito Ortiz hasn’t stopped an opponent in 9 years-that’s right,nine years.Almost a decade.
He hasn’t won a fight that matters (aka someone not named Ken Shamrock) in nearly 4 years,since he squeaked out a split decision over Forrest Griffin in April of 2006.Before that,it was an even bigger squeaker over Vitor Belfort in Feburary 2005,and then a snoozefest decision over Patrick Cote (who took the fight on about 2 days notice) in October of ’04.
When you get right down to it,Tito hasn’t looked good against anyone other than Ken Shamrock in the last ten years.Yet he’s still one of the top draws in MMA.That just goes to show you what a salesman the man is……..or how badly people want to see him get beat up.
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this is the key !
how badly people want to see him get beat up
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by RearNakedPoke on Mar 18, 2010 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You Nailed It
Totally agree – Ortiz’ mouth is so far beyond his ability now it’s a joke. His ability to hype or not, the guy is detracting from the sport’s level of class, as well as from fights we’d rather see get screen time. If we have to watch Tito get finished again, I say let Mark Coleman do it, he deserves to kick his ass for taunting him following his swansong loss to Coutour. I’d bet Ortiz is simply willing to take the beating so he can run his dumb mouth for weeks on TV and feed that 6-year old ego. Like Liddell said, “the guy is a total .. doorknob”. Dana needs to show this doorknob to the door.
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