MMA4Real March Heavyweight MMA Rankings
by Kelvin Hunt on Feb 23, 2010 8:00 AM EST
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| Fighter | Last Ranking |
| 1. Fedor Emelianenko | 1 |
| 2. Brock Lesnar | 2 |
| 3. Frank Mir | 3 |
| 4. Cain Velasquez | 8 |
| 5. Shane Carwin | 5 |
| 6. Junior dos Santos | 6 |
| 7. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira | 4 |
| 8. Brett Rogers | 7 |
| 9. Alistair Overeem | 9 |
| 10. Andrei Arlovski | 10 |
Fedor is still king, but the heavyweight division has been pretty slow with fights lately. The only movement since the last rankings is Cain Velaseuez jumping to #4 with his destruction of Nogueira at UFC 110. Frank Mir and Shane Carwin will face off at UFC 111, and Brock Lesnar will return in a couple of months. Plus dos Santos will take on Gabriel Gonzaga next month. We should see some more movement at that time.
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Also, Cain deserves that jump – the only thing I would alter on this list is that Carwin and JDS would switch places. Hell Carwin might be even further down than that.
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Agree . . . dos Santos and Velasquez has faced tougher competition than Carwin.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 23, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
The Lesnar Ranking Question:
Yes, he’s the UFC heavyweight champion but the guy only has a total of 5 professional fights. I understand that most of the MMA media feels he deserves the #2 slot but I still find it odd. He defeated Couture, Mir and Herring. Lesnar hasn’t fought since July 2009. Noguiera defeated and Herring, while Mir defeated Noguiera. Let’s not forget that Mir lost to Brandon Vera back in 2006. That’s neither here nor there, Mir is clearly a different fighter.
Meanwhile Lesnar is considered better than 2 undefeated fighters Shane Carwin 11 – 0, Cain Velasquez 8 – 0 and a great fighter in Junior Dos Santos 10 – 1 who’s arguably face stiffer competition than the 2 aforementioned fighters. The 3 aformentioned fighters have about double the amount of fights as the champion Brock Lesnar and has been competing for 4 years. I think the biggest differene between Lesnar and the trifecta of Velasquez, Carwin and Dos Santos is opportunity and well . . . WWE. If Lesnar wasn’t given the opportunity to compete for the title, would he still be ranked higher? And is it safe to say that Dos Santos’ and even Velasquez resume looks comparable or better than Lesnar’s record?
Side note: on UFC.com, Michael DiSanto claims that Velasquez standup is far and away superior to Brock Lesnar. OK, this guy is smelling the hype.
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I think the standup superiority
Has more to do with technique, rather than raw power. Don’t get me wrong, Lesnar did roll over Herring and started that TKO with a shot to Randy, but it’s not exactly like he’s a crow-hoppin’ fast-jab-throwin’ Anderson Silva wannabe.
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I rank Lesnar there because he more than likely smash the ones ranked lower…has nothing to do with his popularity
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I know it is not about popularity but more about assumed potential. Lesnar beat a guy that has troubles against wrestlers. Herring lost to Jake O’Brien in his UFC debut. Then he stopped Couture-clearly not in his prime and pulverized Mir. I just don’t think I would conclude he would smash the lower ranks. We know Mir can defeat Lesnar. But we don’t know how Lesnar will fare against the aformentioned trio of Dos Santos, Velasquez and Carwin. The guys he’s faced did not fight them or Rogers and Overeem for that matter.
BTW, now I don’t know who I would put above Arlovski but he’s on 2-fight losing streak and hasn’t fought since June 2009.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 23, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I feel u…but all rankings have assumed potential…Fedor hasn’t beaten those guys either
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I disagree
Otherwise you’d have strong up and comers like Mo ranked, and he doesn’t deserve it at this point. It’s all about what you’ve done, and Lesnar has the HW title in a promotion that has the best overall HW talent today. It wasn’t because he got soft match-ups or was defaulted into a title, it’s because he beat the guys that they put in front of him, and he doesn’t deserve to be ranked #1 because of who he “could” beat, it’s about who he’s beaten in the past year or two.
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That’s my issue . . .compare who’s he beaten to who Dos Santos defeated.
Couture? Herring? Mir? See my breakdown of those 3 opponents.
Neil . . . I’m definitely going to start checking out the Show regularly
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 23, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Well a lot of his ranking is the title
Because without that he’d be top-ten, but likely not #2. I’d say when you compare the guys that the three have fought (Dos Santos, Carwin and Lesnar), Lesnar still has better wins. Hell, for that matter I’d say that he’s over Mir too, for now. Don’t get me wrong, the Kongo whuppin’ was pretty great, but everything is pretty even between the two, and Lesnar beat the holy hell out of Mir twice.
Sidetrack: if Lesnar hadn’t been sidelined, and (presumably) won the Carwin fight way back when, would people still be questioning him as #2 to Fedor’s #1, or would there be debate about him being #1?
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Fedor #1
Then the rest. Does it really matter who is #2 or #3?
Let ’em fight it out in a tournament.
I’d stick Werdum in there instead of Arlovski.
by The Real T-Bone on Feb 23, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions
Carwin is a bit to high. I’d switch him and Dos Santos.
I also wish there was some way Werdum could get in there.
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