Making The Case Why Randy Couture Should Fight Anderson Silva At UFC 112
I made the case all the way back in September, 2008 and a lot of people thought I was crazy for it. Check it:
I know you are saying to yourself..."Couture fights at HW"...this I know. However, as you know he is the former UFC LHW champion and is a relatively small HW. Normally I would say that Silva would destroy Couture because of the difference in striking ability. However, I think Couture could possibly pose some interesting problems for Silva with his wrestling/clinch game. Silva could possibly make it interesting on the ground with his underrated BJJ game. This fight accomplishes three things:
Would be a HUGE PPV draw Couture could fight someone that's a legitimate best P4P guy Couture would pose an interesting challenge to Silva
To put it in perspective, Couture was seeking to prove himself as one of the best P4P fighters in the world while trying to get a fight with Fedor. That fight was never going to happen, so the next best thing would have been Anderson Silva. Now that Vitor Belfort has pulled out the middleweight championship fight with Anderson Silva at UFC 112, its a perfect opportunity to insert Couture into the picture. It seems as if Sonnen will not be able to take the fight because of the damage absorbed in the Marquardt fight. It wouldn't be right to do Marquardt/Silva after he just took that beating from Sonnen. Demian Maia is out with an eye injury. Yushin Okami lost to Chael Sonnen as well, plus he's not a PPV draw at all. Quite frankly, this is the best possible solution out there.
The 3 bullet points I posted up above way back then STILL hold true now. I've been in the midst of all the Couture isn't a top 5 light heavyweight talk. This is a way to give Couture INSTANT credibility in regards to a title shot as a light heavyweight with a win over arguably the best fighter on the planet. Not to mention that Silva is coming off of an absolute destruction of top ten light heavyweight Forrest Griffin at UFC 101.
Let's talk logistics.
If not injured, I'm pretty sure Chael Sonnen would have been offered this opportunity and both he and Couture just fought on the same card at UFC 109. Couture came out of the Coleman fight at UFC 109 relatively unscathed. The UFC 112 event will take place on April 10th, which would give Couture roughly 7 weeks of training provided he wanted to take a week off somewhere in between.
He has been fighting often with 3 fights in the last seven months, but it's clear that he isn't getting any younger and he may never get this opportunity again. It's being rumored that Couture could take on Rich Franklin at UFC 115in Vancouver, but if I had to choose between which fight I would want to see. It would be no-brainer. I think Couture has 3 fights left on his current contract. If the UFC is serious about putting him into title contention, a win over Silva would justify it way more than a win over Rich Franklin. Not only that the PPV would be way bigger than Couture/Franklin and Silva/Belfort could ever be in my opinion. What say you?
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Totally agree. Cool write up, so far I’m favoring Couture, Belcher, Akiyama and I’m sure the UFC can spin a fight for Marquardt.
At this point it is probably a matter of who will accept the fight. If any LHW or MW really wanted the fight, they would or SHOULD be making calls to Joe Silva and Dana White or get on Twitter, blogs, Yahoo Sports! and make their case. Opportunities like this will not happen often.
yeah yeah yeah . . .
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I can’t see them giving a shot to Belcher or Akiyama though….though Akiyama would be the better option with his international appeal…plus he beat Belcher…in regards to LHW’s….there isn’t anyone out there that could put in there and call it a real main event….Silva would knock Luiz Cane’s face off….all the other guys are fighting at some point coming up..
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by Kelvin Hunt on Feb 12, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe I’m just being negative, but I only see downsides to this match-up. Anderson Silva wins and then what do you do with Couture? If you think Dana White is stretching Couture as a “top five LHW” now, he’s going to have a hard time justifying Couture getting anywhere near a title shot. And people will say Silva beat an old, slow guy. If Couture wins, you’ve just ruined Anderson Silva’s aura of invincibility against a 46-year old. I’d rather see Silva against someone that could really put him in possible LHW title contention. Plus, people would say Couture was coming down from HW and Silva was coming up from MW, so he had a big size advantage. Either way, you damage the future draw of the loser, without gaining much for the winner.
by FragglesHateKos on Feb 12, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions
see..I disagree
If Couture were to beat Silva…he lost at LHW…not a middleweight….which is where he is reigning supreme…it’s the same chance they took booking him against Forrest Griffin pretty much…not only would that add to the allure of Couture’s mystique…it would help him do big PPV numbers against the winner of Rua/Machida IMO…also it would be better served that Silva lose to someone like Couture…you know it’ll be a grind’em out decision win if so….that would be better than a loss to a virtual nobody.
If Silva beats Couture…true..he did beat a 46 year old….but it’s against a legend(using that term loosely here)…and it would serve it’s purpose as a ‘fill-in’ main event…otherwise…the PPV numbers will suck unless Sonnen can get in there…
In regards to having Silva face someone that will put him into contention as a LHW…he’s never going to fight Machida #1…and #2…he’ll have to relinquish that middleweight title more than likely….
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by Kelvin Hunt on Feb 12, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I certainly see your points. Especially about the PPV numbers. From a buy rate stand point, this is a good match up. And I know Machida and Silva won’t fight each other, but should Rua win, the Silva moving up talk will kick up another couple of notches. Still can’t get myself excited for this match-up, but given the situation, I’m not sure if the UFC could come up with a better option.
by FragglesHateKos on Feb 12, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
That’s the thing…Rua’s gotta win…I still believe he won the first one…something tells me that he’ll have a hard time repeating that performance…Machida will have a chance to make adjustments in this one…
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The loser always become damage goods in some form or another. no?
yeah yeah yeah . . .
by VeeisAnimated on Feb 12, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
unless
it’s shogun against Machida…;)
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by Kelvin Hunt on Feb 12, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
True, but usually the winner gains something as well. Look at Swick/Hardy. Swick was at the door of a title shot, lost, and took a step back. But Hardy got a huge bump by winning that fight. Enough to get a title shot. I don’t feel this fight would give the winner that much more. Maybe if Couture finished the fight by KO as opposed to smothering Silva against the cage for three rounds.
by FragglesHateKos on Feb 12, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well
It certainly would benefit Couture more….he would have defied the odds again and added that to his legacy….Silva doesn’t stand to gain much no matter who he fights right now….a win over Belfort or Sonnen isn’t going to do much to elevate him either…
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Here's what I posted on BE
1. It’s a HUGE drawing fight. It has that "dream" matchup feel even though we know it will be completely one sided.
2. It puts Anderson up against a top notch wrestler. His one weakness.
3. It gives some time for Chael to heal up. That way there’s a legitimate title fight.
4. It gives Vitor a year or so to recover from surgery.
5.Randy is loved by ESPN. He’s all over it when he fights. This will finally be the pump up Anderson needs to become that huge draw the UFC so desperately wants.
The drawback is that Randy will get destroyed and then the UFC’s plans of pushing him to a title shot at 205 will be destroyed as well. But I figure he’d lose to Franklin anyway so why does it matter?
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solid pts...also
The drawback is that Randy will get destroyed and then the UFC’s plans of pushing him to a title shot at 205 will be destroyed as well. But I figure he’d lose to Franklin anyway so why does it matter?
He shouldn’t be in the title picture anyways…if they pushed him the correct way in beating a top contender before the title shot…he would never make it to that position IMO…so it’s wash.
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Exactly!
That was my point over at BE. If the UFC really wants him to get a title shot then it’s a bad thing but if you are a fan and realize he doesn’t deserve to be in the picture for a title shot anyway then it’s the perfect way to get him out of there. Everybody knows he’d have a real tough time with the top five at lhw.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I agree with FragglesHateKos
It’s a solid PPV buy, but that’s about it. The only potential winner here is Couture, and honestly at this point in his career a win does nothing but get fanboys all excited. Here are the outcomes:
Couture wins: Couture then gets pushed into title contention and gets whupped; Silva looks weak because he got beat by an old man
Silva wins: Couture is still where he is, having been beaten by one of the greatest; Silva looks mean because he beat up an old man
There’s no doubt that this works as a PPV draw, but at the end of the day the only possible winner is Couture (in terms of career movement), and then you make the MW champ look like a fool. Hardcores love Silva, but the average fan is still pretty ho-hum, even after the utter destruction of Forrest Griffin.
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It's the best possible solution if they keep Silva on the card though.
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If Randy beats Silva
I doubt anybody will have even the slightest thought in their brains that he can’t beat Lyoto or Shogun.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I disagree that it makes him like a fool
If they do it right. Build it up as Randy the old man vs the unstoppable force and put it all over ESPN. Have them do the whole Randy/Brock thing. It won’t be as agreeable as that situation because we’d have to listen to Soares instead of Silva but build up Silva that way.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Maybe
But anyone who has remembered Randy’s last four fights will see past it.
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