Rampage/Machida: What Are People Upset About?
I didn't see the need to put another UFC 123 commentary on the frontpage and clog it up, but first and foremost, I am quite possibly the biggest Rampage fan on this site (sorry Pace) and even I scored it 29-28 for Machida on Saturday. With that said, I rewatched it and felt round 1 really should've gone to Rampage but that's besides the point. I'm really not understanding the backlash of the judging here. I see many people saying that the judges are dumb, Dana White fixed the fight, we need five rounds for main events, we need Pride rules, etc. all stemming from the outcome of this one fight, which shouldn't have been and really wasn't that controversial. It was a close fight, the first two rounds were basically a game of a cat and mouse with small spurts of action or events and of course, round 3 was a clear victory for Machida.
Now here's what I don't understand. Are people upset because Machida did so well in the third round (yet didn't finish) and wasn't given the nod because of that? Or do people really think Machida was head and shoulders more active and scored more in the opening rounds? Should making opponents miss and/or not getting fully hit by your opponent score points just as much as octagon control and aggression? I'm seriously not understanding the volume of upset viewers who have basically turned what was a decent fight between two top level fighters and turned it into a big conspiracy theory/judging fiasco. The judges score it based on the criteria laid out by the Unified rules. Therefore, a fighter doesn't score points for making another fighter miss, they get judged on the actually point scoring criteria and that's basically it. Help me to understand what more they could have done or what actual intangibles inside the cage that played out should have swayed the judges more on Machida's side?
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I can’t really comment…as I haven’t actually watched the fight….seems like Rampage was the aggressor as usual…MMA fans are fickle as hell…so that’s part of it….some of it is people bet on Machida and lost…lol….so they mad….there seems to be some backlash towards Rampage for some reason…I remember people cheering for Rashad in their fight….and when do people cheer for Rashad Evans? lol…I’m watch the fight tonight hopefully and then I can give you an informed response…cause right now I’m just talking…
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how did you not see this one!?!? I mean if we judge a fight by only the third round, Rampage lost pretty bad (although Machida didn’t really do all that much with lots of openings, especially on the ground) but the first two rounds, Rampage didn’t look bad at all, in fact he moved probably the quickest I’ve seen him move….ever…or since the Dan Henderson fight
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by Charles Walker on Nov 22, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
ehh
how did you not see this one
bar I usually goto isn’t showing UFC’s anymore….and I won’t paying $45 to see one fight(I only wanted to see the main event)…
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lol, feel you
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by Charles Walker on Nov 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
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If you really think Rampage won that fight your crazy! He landed maybe 5 punches the whole fight, and a judge really gave him the nod for the first round? bougles my mind. The ony offense he mounted was footstomps from the clinch! Compared to Lyoto counterstriking leg kicks! I could give Rampage the nod for round 2, but Lyoto clearly outclassed him in round 3! Long Live The Dragon!
there are other things to judge besides strikes in a fight…either way, Rampage landed way more than 5 punches
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by Charles Walker on Nov 23, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Raw Data for you.
Round 1:
Landed strikes:
Jackson- 26 (4 to the head, 10 to the body and 12 to the legs)
Machida- 16 (1 to the head, 3 to the body and 12 to the legs)
Grappling:
Jackson- 0 takedowns scored, 0 attempted
Machida- 0 takedowns scored, 0 attempted
Round 2:
Landed strikes:
Jackson- 28 (4 to the head, 18 to the body and 6 to the legs)
Machida- 11 (2 to the head, 3 to the body and 6 to the legs)
Grappling:
Jackson- 1 takedown scored, 1 attempted
Machida- 0 takedown scored, 1 attempted
Round 3:
Landed strikes:
Jackson- 16 (2 to the head, 4 to the body and 10 to the legs)
Machida- 26 (16 to the head, 2 to the body and 8 to the legs)
Grappling:
Jackson- 0 takedowns scored, 0 attempted
Machida- 1 takedown scored, 2 attempted
Fight totals:
Jackson- 70 landed strikes (10 to the head, 32 to the body and 28 to the legs); 1 for 2 on takedown attempts.
Machida- 53 landed strikes (19 to the head, 8 to the body and 26 to the legs); 1 for 1 on takedown attempts.
If anything
That fight was a draw. Round 2 was all Rampage, Round 3 all Machida, Round 1 was way too close to call in my opinion.
I think it’s ridiculous to evoke the term “robbed!!!1” when it’s such a close fight and a split decision victory. Had either guy won a unanimous decision, now THAT would constitute a robbery.
That or, you know, stopping the fight 7 seconds too quickly.
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lol @ that last statement
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by Charles Walker on Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage won the fight that it
Rampage was fight and machida didn’t won to fight untill the last round and it still was a 10/9 round for him , he’s boring run run run run run then hope the judges give u the win boring
by Real raptors fan on Dec 3, 2010 4:36 PM EST reply actions
RAmpage wanted to fight and MACHIDA DIDN"T THATS IT
by Real raptors fan on Dec 3, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions
which is why Machia landed more strikes…
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by RearNakedPoke on Dec 5, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Only in the last round
and he won 10/9 wow , the man lost the fight thats it , they should make him fight Jon jones and end his Career cause daddy with take him out after that , there was never a era
by Real raptors fan on Dec 6, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
He lost, he wasn’t whupped. Jon Jones would be a handful for any man. You need to relax man, Machida is solid, dude ain’t no scrub or no bum….
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by RearNakedPoke on Dec 7, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
i'm cool and i respect machida he's great
but he lost get over it rampage wasn’t whupped either , but he push the fight and thats what made him win, not running away every-time it came to striking and thats doesn’t look good on paper or Live Tv ppv
he should fight Jon Jones thats a fight i would love to see
by Real raptors fan on Dec 9, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
there's nothing for me to get over...
i made an observation in relation to a comment
RAmpage wanted to fight and MACHIDA DIDN"T THATS IT
i found no justification for. As a Rampage fan first anf firmost i had him winning the fight 29-28 but it wouldn’t have shocked me if Machida had won in the same fashion. Cool cool anyway….
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by RearNakedPoke on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
i agree it was a close fight but
but u only saw Machida in the last round and he couldn’t finish , they both got take downs so it was a close fight , i would have like him to trade fist with rampage but that would have been a stupid move for him
by Real raptors fan on Dec 14, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions

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