UFC 121 Aftermath: Velasquez Defeats Lesnar, Certainty and Skepticism Still in Heated Battle Among Fans
In the wake of Cain Velasquez's victory over Brock Lesnar at UFC 121, I'm reminded of a phrase Martin Tyler often reiterated during this summer's FIFA World Cup: "It is a game of fine margins." And while Mr. Tyler was referring to soccer, the statement is easily attributable to MMA. Never has this been proven truer for MMA than last night's heavyweight championship bout in which the self-proclaimed "Baddest S.O.B. Around" was smacked about the Octagon mercilessly, at the hands of a fighter mocked as having more hype behind his punches than he did power.
In the coming weeks, Velasquez will be showered with effusive praise, and rightly so. Virtually unknown before 2010, he doled out the most ferocious beating in a high-end heavyweight fight since Fedor Emelianenko embarrassed Tim Sylvia two years ago. As for Lesnar, the derision and skepticism to which he's been privy for three years will only escalate. The MMA community, so predictably capricious, will claim Lesnar was a fraud even though declarations of his invincibility are not in the distant past, while in the next breath they hail the arrival of the "Velasquez Era".
There are undeniable facts this morning: technique trumps size; consistent sparring with elite mixed martial artists is the most effective training; and poise is the most valuable "intangible" in any fight. Because Cain Velasquez held definitive advantages in all of these areas, he claimed a definitive victory.
It was not a flawless victory, however. Velasquez found himself underneath Lesnar, and exposed to the power of the champ in the clinch. But because he had acutely honed skills for each scenario, because he had marched through adversity before, because his resolve to conquer was steeled as hard as his chin, his opponent fell broken and blooded underneath him.
With that description, only one other fighter comes to mind - vintage Fedor. Yet, with the same swiftness in which Fabricio Werdum locked him in to a triangle choke, Fedor's decade of dominance was dismissed and his legacy slandered; in an instant, MMA's highest god was merely mortal. Now isn't it funny how just last week, there was speculation that Brock Lesnar was on the verge of becoming the greatest MMA heavyweight of all time? He was already being held aloft as the UFC's greatest champion, an unstoppable force to whom all must cower in fear. And now today, he's a never-was, a paper champion. How soon until the same is said of Cain Velasquez?
Much like the judging of a Presidency, the most accurate assessments of a championship reign will only manifest themselves after the culmination of said period is no longer fresh. And, who knows, perhaps Lesnar begins another championship run in 2011? Perhaps our new heavyweight king holds the title as long as he wants? Or maybe an unknown youngster emerges from the shadows and dispatches Velasquez with ease? In that case, this crown will topple and surely we will all doubt the infallibility that today seems so certain.
A game of fine margins, indeed.
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I dont know, I was never sold on Lesnar, and I alot of folks who also
doubted him. I felt he was a physical superfreak, but sometimes that can hurt someone’s development as a fighter in some ways. Lesnar can still run over most any HW on any given day though. His flinchiness and huge over reactions to punches were his downfall, and its what he has to fix. A takedown other than a power double would be good too.
Cain, whether he keeps the belt for 10 defenses, or loses the next one, is here to stay. Well rounded, very polished, and most importantly has a great deal of mental toughness in that he never, ever stops trying to win a fight.
I agree with you though as to the fans and general media and their moods. Every guy who gets knocked down has a glass chin, a guy who gets tired has horrible cardio, and so on. Alot of folks were a bit higher on Lesnar than he had merited through his performances, and expected more progress with his fighting skills than is realisitic -esp given the level he is fighting on. But that is the fight game, hero to zero or vice versa in one fight, and as a guy once told me, to the public, you are only as good as your last fight.
Cain is the real deal though, whether he makes a Fedor – like run or not, he will he around and very dominant for a good long time. Brock, I feel may retire to his spread, content with having tested himself against the best in the world, and going back to his isolated lifestyle.
The scary thing about Cain
Is that every fight we see him, he looks twice as good as before
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 24, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
good stuff
recommended it as you raise and cover some salient points. A few of my own fwiw,
1. I am a fan who placed a tremendous amount of belief in Lesnar and support also. The support remains but my belief is wavering as to how good he actually is. His chin does raise a serious concern because in consecutive fights against top tier talent he has now been battered and cowered from these attacks instead of exploding back with his own volley of strikes or intelligently defending himself…
2. If he fought Cain or Shane again would he realistically stand a chance of beating them? I think he’d be at +200 loosely speaking which is a fall from grace in itself.
3. If Lesnar fails in his proposed next title run I believe he’ll retire from the sport. I don’t see his interest extending beyond being the champion. He won’t play top contender tennis like the AKA WW’s and friends.
"If Michael Bisping ever addresses me in public comment again, I will bury him where he stands." ~ Chael Sonnen
thanks mate
I especially agree with your last point. If he loses his next bout, no matter who it is against, I think he’s done with the sport.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 24, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing his next bout
is a serious unlikihood if it indeed turns out to be Frank Mir, i still have images of his arms pinned, his head prone and Lesnar just gunning him… i think its worse again next time. The folllow up fight is where it gets interesting, who would then recieve a title shot given Carwin and Big Country have fought? Realistically Lesnar gets it on the back of being a PPV MegaWeight and also being liable to leave the sport… truthfully the Carwin/Nelson winner should in fact get the shot imo given the style of Lesnars loss and also the fact that in all honesty the other match up truly is a top contender battle whereas Mir isn’t fit to piss in the same urinal.
"If Michael Bisping ever addresses me in public comment again, I will bury him where he stands." ~ Chael Sonnen
by RearNakedPoke on Oct 24, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
#3 all the way.
Oh yeah, OUCH!! “He won’t play top contender tennis like the AKA WW’s and friends.”
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Oct 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
First Mr. Anthony Pace I have to say this is a fine piece. REC’ED Better than most of the reactionary pieces I’ve seen around SB*Nation.
Fedor is still that dude in my opinion. Yes, he lost, yes he got submitted.
When I see people throw Werdum in the top 2 position, well above JDS because of this one victory . . . then I have to say to myself that most rankings BS. Whatever, but I guess they’re fun to argue about. All that to say, Fedor’s legacy is not and can not be tarnished. This is not like boxing where his career is padded. Sorry, that’s not the case.
The Lesnar hype was just that. Carwin beat his ass like Sonnen beat Silva. BUT THERE WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE that showed me what kind of fighter Brock Lesnar is.
“in that fight he just showed me that he’s a little bit of a coward, I mean against Carwin.” – Phil Baroni.
Hey, I’m not going to go as far to call Brock Lesnar a coward because it takes serious balls to step into the cage against professional MMA fighters. SERIOUS GUTS. But to CRINGE, COWER and RUN the way Lesnar did against Shane Carwin!?! And then to do the exact same thing against Cain Velasquez!?! Like I said, I’m not going to call him a coward but I don’t know if I can call him a fighter.
I’m still looking forward to the Lesnar-Carwin rematch.
Velasquez. What can I say other than he won. He’s the champ but let’s not get carried away and talk like he already has a number of title defenses under his belt. He didn’t prove that he’s better than Shane Carwin . . . yes I said Carwin. And he didn’t prove himself to be better than JDS.
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VEe is ANIMated!
It was Dana White AGAIN!
Don’t let Dana do this to you.
Last night I saw three fighters go down that were the product of marketing. Patrick Cote, Tito Ortiz, and Brock Lesnar. Also add Paulo Thiago.
Lesnar’s striking will not improve to a point where he could be considered a well-rounded fighter. He can knock Randy out and lay and pound guys like Mir out. But against Cain, JDS, and Carwin, I don’t think he stands a chance. Those are are mixed martial artists.
As far as comparing Cain to Fedor..yes. If Cain beats Carwin and JDS, and defends his title few more times after that, he would be in his 30’s. I could see him being labeled the best in his era.
Let’s wait till the JDS fight though. JDS couldn’t knock Nelson out. AA did. I don’t even know anymore. Is UFC all hype? Jake Shields, the SF champ, did horribly against a UFC contender. He can’t beat Jon Fitch, Thiago Alves, or GSP. So in that sense UFC is for reals. But it’s really the UFC fanboys that drive me crazy.
Yep Dana and the UFC are the only one’s that are full of hype smh. It’s truly hillarious to see how blind and deluded some fans can be while at the same time, they’re the ones turning around and believing the hype they’ve been sold like with Fedor incredible.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Oct 25, 2010 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i never was into lesnar and couldnt wait for him to loose
that being said, i do think he had something to offer, i been reading a lot as to how most people don’t believe he is coming back to the octagon for a while, i hope he does. the man needs a lot of work to be considered a true mixed martial artist but he had potential, just needs to develop the skills….. also very happy Cain won!!!! :)
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wanderlei ::: shogun ::: bj penn ::: fedor
by cauliflower_ears on Oct 25, 2010 7:17 AM EDT reply actions
I'm fed up of the word Era.
First it was the Machida era…We all know how that ended. Now its the Velasquez era.
This is the fight game and there’s always someone out there who might be your kryptonite. Styles make matches. Junior Dos Santos can easily wreck Cain within a few minutes and we’d be crowning him as unbeatable until he’s beaten.
Brock was supposedly this fierce beast from lore who was pounded out by this Mexican guy half his size.
Its silly to get carried away and label anyone as unbeatable. MMA math does not work.
Hypothetically, if Overeem beats Dos Santos in a standup battle but gets subbed by Frank Mir who in turn gets fucked up by Junior, who exactly is the best of these 3?
As fans, we need to enjoy the fight for what it is and not get carried away when someone emerges victorious against someone supposedly unbeatable.
wanderlei ::: shogun ::: bj penn ::: fedor
by cauliflower_ears on Oct 25, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions
I’m not sure, but I’m almost positive every time you have a thought, the collective IQ of civilization somehow drops.
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by Anthony Pace on Oct 25, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions

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