Is Anyone Giving Shogun Rua A Shot At Beating Lyoto Machida At UFC 104?
It doesn't seem as if that's the case. Here we are almost exactly one month out from UFC 104 in which former #1 LHW in the world will take on the current #1 LHW in the world in Lyoto Machida. UFC.com has a poll asking readers who they think will win the upcoming matchup, and the results are hugely in favor of the current UFC LHW champion Lyoto Machida. Check it:
![]() |
VS | ![]() |
| Lyoto Machida | Mauricio Rua | |
| 88% | 12% |
7200
20 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I don’t see a way he does, especially if he can’t finish it early and I’m not sure what he’d have to actually do to finish it early, his boxing isn’t good enough and his kicks are too wild….maybe clinch? I don’t know
by Charles Walker on Sep 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
Yo
I’m go back and watch the Rua/Liddell fight…and see if I can see anything that could pose problems for Machida.
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@KelvinHunt
by Kelvin Hunt on Sep 23, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
When Shogun threw the punch that knocked Chuck down his chin was WAY up in the air he can’t do that vs Machida
by Erich Vowell on Sep 23, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He should do something crazy like dive for a leglock or such.
Rua at the top of his game is a fearsome force of nature, but I simply do not know where he’s at – safe money would be Machida.
Bloody hell.
I agree I say he tries pulling guard and use his blackbelt something he has never really done. He could pull off a submission…I think.
by Erich Vowell on Sep 23, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
But
What if Shogun’s a huge underdog?…(he probably is).
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@KelvinHunt
If he's like +500
I’d put some money on him… but that line will take some weird turns when the bets start coming
Bloody hell.
Gotta back one of my favorite fighters of all time.
I got Shogun’s back.
...some call me "el mexicutioner"...
Actually, Machida does not have brutal KO power. Sure he knocked Rashad out but Rashad took several punches before he finally went down. And against Thiago Silva, Silva’s head had nowhere to go between Lyoto’s fist and the mat. Up until then he had never knocked anyone out really.
Shogun can take a lot of damage and he’ll still keep coming. Machida is more precise but Shogun hits harder. He also has a better ground game.
I honestly think Shogun has a decent chance. Its a toss up for me.
by cauliflower_ears on Sep 23, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
Like I said: if I knew for certain that Shogun was coming in at 100% I would have him as a slight underdog, but the Chuck fight didn’t really prove/show anything (IMO).
Bloody hell.
The only thing that concerns me is Shogun’s Cardio…it’s a 5 round fight…
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@KelvinHunt
Word?
I don’t think it is though…if you are referring to the Ortiz fight…he was supposedly pretty sick leading up to that one..who knows nowadays though…I belive his cardio is better than Shogun’s…
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@KelvinHunt
Call it intuition
Of course I base it on very little material, but he looked tired in the Nakamura fight (who actually got some nice shots in) – and there was this… sense of urgency in the Rashad fight too where I thought he looked tired.
But yeah, the ideal guy to beat him IMO is a greco guy who can lean on him and make the fight ugly…
Bloody hell.
Yea
Those fights were a minute ago though…
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@KelvinHunt

by 














