UFC 102 Fallout: What We Learned From The Event
A week or so ago I wrote about possible story lines to be on the lookout for in the aftermath of UFC 102. I honestly wasn't expecting too much from the event, but the event really exceeded my expectations and then some. This was all topped off by the Nogueira/Couture fight more than living up to the hype. So I wanted to chat a bit about what the event taught us and what's next for some of the fighters.
-Brandon Vera just can't seem to get that hype train rolling again. It seems whenever he goes up against someone semi-good, he just can't get the win or he wins unimpressively. He had some spots where he looked good last night, but with his talent you expect him to be able to finish guys like Reese Andy and Soszynski. Some people will say a win is a win, but certain fighters are not held to the same standard and Vera is one of them. A lot of that is due to his outrageous talk early in his career, combined with some impressive efforts early in his UFC career. That was Vera's fourth fight as a light heavyweight in the UFC. Besides Keith Jardine, all of his opponents have been mid-level guys at best. It's time for Vera to sink or swim in the UFC LHW division in my opinion. He needs to face a top ten opponent, and Thiago Silva would be the perfect fight.
UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira coverage
-Chris Leben is the epitome of a fighter that clearly doesn't have his best interests in mind when it comes to fight strategy. You have fighters that a described as brawlers, but Leben takes that term to another level. I was just shaking my head at some of the wild punches he was winging last night. That loss probably gets him dropped from the UFC. Jake Rosholt didn't look too bad in standing and trading with Leben. However, I was most impressed with the submission he used to put Leben out. That was a thing of beauty. I expect the UFC to continue to mold him carefully with good match-ups.
-Nate Marquardt absolutely decapitated Demain Maia. It was a highlight reel finish, but it's also a whammy because we didn't really get a chance to see how those two match up. I had stated over and over again that I thought Marquardt was going to be too much for Maia. However, I don't think anyone say that coming. I think Marquardt deserves the title shot over Dan Henderson. However, I wouldn't be mad at those to fighting one another for the right to fight Anderson Silva next. Especially since Silva is unclear in regards to what he wants to do next. In regards to Demian Maia, I think he'll be back, but it's clear he needs to improve his stand up game. You can't beat top level opposition consistently just being superior in one discipline.
-Thiago Silva probably should get an apology from me. In fact, Thiago Silva is the man...there I said it. However, as good as his win was for him and his career, it's kind of like the Maia/Marquardt fight. Jardine has tendencies to get overwhelmed early, and even though Jardine was the aggressor it still makes me question just how good Thiago Silva is. Even though Jardine is a highly ranked LHW, I still think Silva is quite a ways away from a title shot being that the current champion destroyed him earlier this year. So Silva is probably going to be gatekeeper status for a while or unless he just KTFO out of 2 or 3 opponents in a row. As I mentioned earlier, I'd like to see him and Vera square off next. Keith Jardine will probably be safe from getting dropped from the promotion. This guy has had a murderer's row of opponents in the last two years, and he's still close to .500 during that time span. Plus, he probably has too much of a name for the UFC to allow him to go to Strikeforce.
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is my favorite heavyweight of all time and he absolutely pumped new life into his career with his win over Randy Couture. I don't think the fight was close at all because Couture was basically fighting to survive for over half of the fight. I have a poll asking if you thought Nogueira earned a shot at the winner of Lesnar/Carwin so make sure you hit that up if you haven't already. In regards to Randy Couture, he signed a new contract on yesterday before the Nogueira fight. This will probably see him move back down to the UFC LHW division for a slew of money fights. He said he's going to take them one fight at a time, but honestly I don't expect Couture to finish out that contract fighting in the deepest division in all of MMA.
-Gabriel Gonzaga got back on the right track with his win.
-Todd Duffee is a monster. Jesus that guy is huge, and he was already asking Dana White for another fight before the post fight press conference last night according to White. Duffee said he wanted the fast track, so we'll see what happens with him.
-Ed Herman is probably facing getting cut, even though he got injured in the fight.
Give us your thoughts on the event and what you learned in the comments section.
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Vera vs. Thiago is a good idea, let’s hope it happens. I think I’d rather see Nate vs. Hendu over either vs. Silva honestly. Jardine got what I figured he’s get. Anytime he fights a guy that comes at him he get dropped. He deserves to stay in the UFC but the hype on him need to stop. Duffee is a monster and if he wants a fast track then get him back in the cage ASAP. The main event was great to watch, Nog beat couture every round and should be right at the top for the belt. Good night of fights again
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Thiago’s striking defense/offense looked sharp. I pretty much had him down as a caveman, so I was very surprised by that.
I don’t know that I want him to fight Vera, I’d rather see Thiago Silva vs. Little Nog or Luiz Cane
Bloody hell.
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Well…that fight be moreso for Vera than Silva…Silva isn’t going to get a title shot anytime soon with Machida as champ…I wouldn’t mind seeing Cane/Silva either…but I just want Vera to fight someone that could possible put him away instead of going to decisions.
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yea
Plus…he hasn’t evolved at all in the past 4 years…same approach every fight.
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I updated my fighter rankings after last nights fights. There was a few changes, major one was Maia dropped out of the top 5. Posted them today if you’d like to check it out.
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I’ll probably update ours shortly.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Aug 31, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Thiago Silva, sorry I’m not sold, but he did look good. I feel sorry for Keith Jardine.
Demian Maia, I WAS SO WRONG. We now know that his striking is definitely not up to the task. I guess Marquardt did Anderson Silva a favor by weeded out another pesky annoyance. Silva doesn’t find BJJ wizards exciting. Hmmm . . . Nathan Marquardt??? while I still don’t care for a rematch, unless he faces Henderson, whatever . . . who ever the UFC places in the Octagon against Anderson Silva I’m sure it will be interesting.
Quick message for Henderson and Marquardt, good luck on closing the distance and taking Anderson Silva down. I really hope Vitor Belfort makes a name for himself, but Franklin is one tough cookie.
Randy didn’t think the fight was close, he said Noguiera won all the rounds. That fight was far better than UFC 79 Liddell vs. Silva.
Chris Leben . . . ha!
Ed Herman, that’s the fight game. Defend those takedowns.
Brandon Vera really needs to pull the mental trigger. He may need to see a sports psychologist or something. He has the tools.
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Good stuff
Far better than Silva/Liddell though!? That fight was crazy as well…one thing in common…they both lived up to the hype.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Aug 31, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it was better in terms of what we saw.
Wanderlei SIlva was just aggresively slugging away trying to throw bombs while Chuck Liddell countered. In the 3rd round Chuck Liddell said he went for the takedowns just to score points with the judges, not necessarily to finish the fight.
In the Couture-Nogueira fight you saw boxing, grappling, brazilian jiu-jitsu and some kick boxing. Neither fighter fought tentatively, they engaged from the beginning to the very end. Liddell vs Silva was crazy but like John Hackleman knew, that fight was a perfect match for Chuck Liddell who had a great reach advantage and size to beat Wanderlei’s looping punches. Hackleman loves any opponent that will continuously come forward to force the action against Liddell.
I don’t think Nogueira had any significant advantage against Couture and vice-versa, with the exceptioni of his bjj, but Couture wrestling and defensive ground game would keep him safe. I understand that most crowds love great crazy slugfests but at the end of the day, most aggresive crazy sluggers would get mauled by technical experts.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 31, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
think it was better in terms of what we saw.
Wanderlei SIlva was just aggresively slugging away trying to throw bombs while Chuck Liddell countered.
Yea, but we knew that was the allure of that fight…lol…we knew that’s exactly what was going to happen…yea Liddell shot for a takedown…which selfishly I disliked…but as a fighter you want to make sure you win the fight as well…I thought that fight lived up to the hype as well…they went at it for like 13 mins straight before the takedown.
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