WEC 42 Review: Jeff Curran Thinks He Was Robbed Against Takeya Mizugaki
by Kelvin Hunt on Aug 11, 2009 11:08 PM EDT
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PrintJeff Curran speaks with MMAWeekly:
The object of this sport is to do damage and try to finish your opponent. Mizugaki was saved by the bell at the end of the second round and the third. The entire fight was me out-striking him from my back after he scored one takedown early in each round. Judges need to open their eyes and see who is really controlling the fight," stated Curran on Tuesday. Something needs to change because this is happening with poor judging all over the sport.
What needs to be done? Who knows, maybe judges should have better qualification courses that are ran and conducted by people that really understand our sport.
Until then, I will be training harder than ever and I will not stop. I want a rematch with Mizugaki.
I don't disagree that MMA judging overall needs to improve and become more consistent, but I don't think Jeff Curran was 'robbed'. The fight was VERY close. I actually had Mizugaki winning 29-28, but said in the open thread that the fight probably could have gone either way. Curran saying he was out-striking Mizugaki from his back may have some truth to it, but Mizugaki landed the more meaningful shots from top position. It's not often that strikes from the bottom do much damage when compared to strikes from the top. However, I understand Curran's frustration being that it was his fourth loss in a row, albeit all of them are against top tier competition.
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I thought he might have pulled it off in the end
It was pretty close though.
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Oh
If he had another minute in the third…it would have been a wrap probably….however, that choke attempt in the second round he mentions won’t even near to being close to finishing Mizugaki…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Aug 11, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Jeff Curran...
…but he’s wrong. If he wants to win a fight based on a submission attempt (read: didn’t get the job done) he should go fight in Japan. Over there, they would have been all over him, except for the whole white-boy thing. I don’t disagree that he was active on the bottom, but he forgets where he was: the bottom. One of the criteria for judging is grappling, and Curran didn’t land his butt on the ground because he butt-scooted his way into guard. Two others are (fighting surface) control and grappling, which Mizugaki had in the bag leading up to the triangle. There’s also effective aggressiveness, and although Curran was aggressive, I didn’t see Mizugaki go out, so it must not have been that effective.
Some of the officiating this weekend was pretty awful, but Curran losing that decision was on the ball. 29-28 Mizugaki, all day long.
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by -Neil- on Aug 12, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
it’s a 3 round fight, and you have to weigh a close submission attempt versus losing much of an entire round….he should realize by now that unless the guy on top does a full bore lay n’ pray, many judges still have a catch wrestling mentality and view the guy on bottom as in the losing/whore position (literally what they call it). period. i don’t necessarily agree, but it’s not like we haven’t seen enough mma fights to know that many judges view the top position as dominant. i think other than the triangle ending of one particular round, much of the other rounds was debatable…..
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by theworldsoldestsport on Aug 12, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
The problem with "submission attempts"
is that while it is a legitimate attempt at ending a fight, it’s not always going to put the other fighter in danger. I could attempt to armbar Matt Hughes all day, doesn’t mean Matt would ever be in danger. So while Mir calling out triangle attempt after attempt, Mizugaki read them and adapted every time… except the last one.
Curran’s offense was like throwing haymakers at Anderson Silva all day.
Yep
All except that triangle…Mizugaki wasn’t getting out of that….
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Right
and that’s why I give him round 3. Still, I think you’ve gotta actually lock the figure 4 and break your opponents posture before you get big points for an attempted submission. All those shifts to the high guard that got Mir riled up shouldn’t count for more than dominating top control.
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