MMA4Real's Why Do Fighters Do Or Don't Do These Things During Fights?
by Kelvin Hunt on Jul 3, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
in News
Email
PrintIf you are like me, I know you have watched MMA before and said stuff to yourself like, "Why doesn't he do this?" "Why in the world did he do that?" This post was inspired by the fanpost that I made in regards to fighters hitting the pads, and not implementing those same techniques in the actual fight. So I started thinking of all the times I've been watching fights and asked the questions above. I came up with the following:
- Why do fighters that have clearly lost the first two rounds(in a non title fight) not go for broke more often in the final round? I mean you gonna lose the judges the decision right? What do you have to lose by trying to take your opponent out?
- Why do fighters that get taken down get full guard on their opponent only to not come close to getting a submission the entire round...do the same thing in round 2 and 3? I'm like if you want a different result homie...you gotta do something you haven't tried yet.
- I mentioned this earlier...why does fighter A pin fighter B against the cage while standing...and never unleash devastating combinations while the fighter is still up against the cage? I know the threat of a take down is there, but I swear major damage could be done a lot of the times when fighter B is in a defensive position.
- Why do fighter NEVER listen to their corner-men? Fighter A will shoot for a take down only to get stuffed by Fighter B, leaving Fighter A vulnerable to knees. The corner-man shouts KNEES, but fighter A NEVER throws them?
- Why don't more fighters execute take downs so that they land in side control instead of their opponents guard? I've mentioned this with Jon Jones and the way he executed take downs against Stephan Bonnar. He landed in side control like every time.
- When the ten count sound is made near the end of a round, why don't more fighters flurry in rounds that are really close to try and steal that round or something?
These are just some of the things that I had on my mind. Feel free to add your own on or expand on the ones I've mentioned. I'll probably be back with more in the comments section.
11 comments
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
“Why don’t more fighters execute take downs so that they land in side control instead of their opponents guard? I’ve mentioned this with Jon Jones and the way he executed take downs against Stephan Bonnar. He landed in side control like every time.”
This is a good question that I hadn’t really thought of. There are different hip tosses, throws and Greco takedowns that would easily allow a fighter to land in side mount.
I think shooting for double and single leg takedowns are a lot easier than the judo throws that give you side control. I haven’t trained much, but I remember the double leg takedown being a lot easier than any hip throw I’d ever learned. Remove the gi, and those hip throws are damn near impossible against a skilled opponent. That’s probably why we mostly see them from trained judokas, like Karo and Yoshida.
Also, wrestling is a lot more popular in the states than judo.
When the ten count sound is made near the end of a round, why don’t more fighters flurry in rounds that are really close to try and steal that round or something?
Another good one right here!
The answer to all of these. I have no clue. :(
Rec’d again!
Crowd: FE-DOR! FE-DOR!
Mike Goldberg: The crowd seems to be chanting "Kongo" here, Joe.
Why do fighter NEVER listen to their corner-men? Fighter A will shoot for a take down only to get stuffed by Fighter B, leaving Fighter A vulnerable to knees. The corner-man shouts KNEES, but fighter A NEVER throws them?
I’ve been boxing for the past year. The more fatigued I get, the less I listen to my trainer when he’s cornering me. It drives him crazy. Most of the time I don’t realize it until after the fight, but some other reasons:
1. I’m too tired to effectively execute it
2. my opponent hears and is now looking to counter when I throw it. For example, yesterday he was yelling “his body’s open — left hook to the body”. Sure enough, his body wasn’t open any more.
It goes both ways though. When I here my opponents trainer yelling instructions from the opposite corner, I can anticipate what he’s going to do if he’s not smart about executing it, or if they’re not smart about phrasing it.
Good pts
I’m not saying you have to do it as soon as they call out the instructions though…if they close up the opening that was there…then that just opens an opening somewhere else…
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@MMA4Real
Oh yeah, I agree totally. It seems like some guys just go out there to do their own thing sometimes. Of course, those arenas can get hella loud, unless of course you’re in Japan.
Live previews and reviews of all major fights!
LightsOutRadio.com
Why do fighters that have clearly lost the first two rounds(in a non title fight) not go for broke more often in the final round? I mean you gonna lose the judges the decision right? What do you have to lose by trying to take your opponent out?
I agree. Why not feign an unintentional blow? At this point, you have nothing to lose and hitting someone in the nuts is a total game-changer. Just act like you didn’t mean it.
Why do fighters that get taken down get full guard on their opponent only to not come close to getting a submission the entire round…do the same thing in round 2 and 3?
Well, pulling guard is about more than just a submission from the bottom, it’s about control. I’d rather have some guy trying to hit me in the face from guard than from full mount, even if I can’t pull off a sub to save my life.
I mentioned this earlier…why does fighter A pin fighter B against the cage while standing…and never unleash devastating combinations while the fighter is still up against the cage?
Some guys just don’t do clinch work, or just aren’t down with close fighting like that. It makes sense that you’d want to pummel someone as much as you can, but it may just never be in someone’s gameplan.
Why do fighter NEVER listen to their corner-men?
Caught in the moment, or just dumb. They could be deaf too, in a few instances.
Why don’t more fighters execute take downs so that they land in side control instead of their opponents guard?
Most takedowns are done with a single or a double, or even a trip, so it seems that it would be much more difficult. Some guys also would prefer to go into guard, then half-guard for better control, as someone who doesn’t have a good top game might have problems keeping a dude down from side control.
Why do fighters that have clearly lost the first two rounds(in a non title fight) not go for broke more often in the final round?
If I had a DOLLAR for every time I was yelling at my TV for some fool who got tooled the first two rounds pussy-footing around in the third, I’d have… well I’d have several dollars. It’s wild that some guys do it like that, but it’s possible that their corner is telling them they’re ahead on the scorecards, or that they (Matt Serra) believe that they won a few rounds.
Live previews and reviews of all major fights!
LightsOutRadio.com
Well, pulling guard is about more than just a submission from the bottom, it’s about control. I’d rather have some guy trying to hit me in the face from guard than from full mount, even if I can’t pull off a sub to save my life.
Why not just try to get back up to your feet is basically what I was implying..
Most takedowns are done with a single or a double, or even a trip, so it seems that it would be much more difficult. Some guys also would prefer to go into guard, then half-guard for better control, as someone who doesn’t have a good top game might have problems keeping a dude down from side control.
I’m saying though…I’d be training take downs that I could use to land in side control…good point about the top game though…but if their top game is wack…they DEF. need to improve that shit…lol.
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@MMA4Real
Why not just try to get back up to your feet is basically what I was implying..
Oh for sure. However (using myself as a wonderful example again) if I’ve got that same bad ground game, do I have a better hope of getting up, or just holding the dude trying to plaster my face so it gets stood up? Some guys don’t do either, but if you take a fella like Houston Alexander, he’s got to pray to get someone in full guard just to protect himself, because it ain’t getting any better than guard.
I’m saying though…I’d be training take downs that I could use to land in side control…good point about the top game though…but if their top game is wack…they DEF. need to improve that shit…lol.
Yeah, that’s true. Some guys prefer the guard, or more specifically half-guard though (just ask Joe Rogan!). That’s probably what I’d go for, because you can control at least one leg, and you don’t need to worry about someone getting up from side control. I’d really like to get a good wrestler’s take on it, like Hendo.
Live previews and reviews of all major fights!
LightsOutRadio.com
Word
I’d really like to get a good wrestler’s take on it, like Hendo.
Yea, or Couture, I know he likes to stay in halfguard….see I’m a big fan of knees to the body from side control…so I’d be blasting them shits…which should open up some things…if the guy got back up to his feet…then we’d just repeat the process…because in that case it would be him that’s taking the damage…
But of course..you already knew all of that…lol.
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@MMA4Real
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
