Making The Case For Nick Diaz Against Frank Shamrock
by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 9, 2009 8:33 AM EDT
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PrintMost people are probably leaning toward Frank Shamrock in this fight, but Shamrock only has one way of winning this fight. He has to knock Nick Diaz out. He's not going to submit Diaz, and he's not going to win a decision. Does Shamrock have the more power striking of the two? Probably so. However, Diaz has never really been knocked out in his entire career. He's been stopped twice, once on cuts and he was TKO'ed against Jeremy Jackson early in his career. Nick Diaz has A LOT of advantages in this fight. Check it:
- Reach Advantage
- As good, if not better on the ground than Shamrock
- Much Better Cardio
- Shamrock Is Coming Off Another Long Layoff
As far as the ground game, injuries have pretty much limited Shamrock and I just don't see him being able to catch Diaz in anything. Also, he's already admitted that Diaz's length on the ground would cause problems. Therefore, I'm pretty sure he'll want to keep this fight on the feet(like's he has done for the majority of the time since coming back).
As I mentioned earlier, Shamrock has the power advantage, and he can probably goad Diaz into a standup war. However, this has all the makings of Diaz/Lawler I, except Diaz will probably not be able to stop Shamrock. If Diaz can keep his head and use that reach advantage to pepper Shamrock with punches(like he normally does) he should be able to win a decision fairly easy in my opinion. I think the long layoff will be detrimental to Shamrock as well. The pace that Diaz pushes will be too much for Shamrock, and the longer the fight goes the the more Shamrock will swing for the fences causing him to gas even more. Shamrock's cardio has been pretty suspect, and I see it being a problem for him in this fight. I expect this fight to go to the judges, with Diaz winning a decision.
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I’m expecting to get 10% of those winnings good sir…my paypal account will be waiting :)
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I can pay you in theoretical dollars :)
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Apr 9, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I can disagree with you if you want.
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Apr 9, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, let me shoot from the hip then.
- Strength advantage (as mentioned).
- Shamrock has almost no submission losses (at least that I can remember). I don’t see Diaz submitting Shamrock nor controlling him from the top as far as the ground game goes.
- Shamrock knows how to pace himself, if he needs a breather he could probably get into some lazy GnP for a while and recover.
- Shamrock has come back from long lay-offs before.
Bloody hell.
I see you!
-Renzo Gracie was controlling Shamrock on the ground…before Shamrock started hitting him in the back of the head..not to mention that Shamrock is about 3 years older now
-Shamrock was GASSED against Baroni…and didn’t look to hot against Le either…Diaz has a gas tank for DAYS son…lol…plus Diaz likes to push the pace.
-He has come back from long lay offs…but these years are accumulating on him…it’s not the same as it was last year or the year before that…
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3PA wins the debate as well as the maiden fair!!!
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Apr 9, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think the only way Nick loses this is by cut and it could happen b/c these guys will likely stand and bang.
Frank didn’t even try to test Cung Le on the ground so if he stood with him, he’ll stand with Nick as well…especially since Nick has a ground game (even if he doesn’t use it much either).
Nick takes this one by decision.
by The Real T-Bone on Apr 10, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
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