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So It's "OK" For Both Fighters To Miss Weight?

In this instance I'm speaking specifically about Jeremy Stephens and Gleison Tibau at Ultimate Fight Night 18.  First of all, BOTH of these fighters missed weight and that's that.  I'm sure Tibau could have shed the 1/2 pound needed if given the time, but that's the beside the point.  I understand he took this fight on somewhat short notice, but he still had ample time to cut the weight.  However, Jeremy Stephens missed weight by 3 pounds and he just fought less than 2 months ago!  That's unexcusable and I find it odd that nobody has really mentioned it.  Did he suffer an injury or something?  Maybe it's because both fighters agreed to fight at a catchweight?

Normally when you have two fighters weighing-in and one of them misses weight they are penalized.  I suppose it's up to the commission, but it's usually something to the effect of a percentage of your purse goes to your opponent.  A percentage of your purse then goes to the commission I do believe.  So what gives when both fighters miss weight like in this instance?  Are there no penalties and it's settled via agreeing to fight at a catchweight?  So is it "OK" for both fighters to miss weight?

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that doughnut before weighin was probably not a smart idea

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by Zak Woods on Apr 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol…ya know…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 3, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You would think that it would be written into the fighters contracts that they would automatically be penalized if they didn’t make weight, if not by the commission then by Zuffa.
IMO, it sets a bad precedent. I don’t think it would be a valid excuse, but now if one or both guys don’t make weight at future events and are monetarily penalized, they can claim unfair treatment based on unfair treatment.

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by _Felix_ on Apr 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This

You would think that it would be written into the fighters contracts that they would automatically be penalized if they didn’t make weight, if not by the commission then by Zuffa.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huh?

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by _Felix_ on Apr 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“This” is apparently the new way of saying….I agree with this…or I’m co-signing this….LOL…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 3, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh cool, Those damn young kids’ terminolgy!!!!

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by _Felix_ on Apr 3, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I think it’s bullshit.

If a fight set-up on 2 weeks notice will have to be catchweight then so be it, but I’m really not interested in hearing reasons/excuses why people failed to make weight.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Apr 3, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another reason which I support yellow cards. In Japan if you miss weight, you automatically get 10% of your pay cut. It’s a similar case in the US, in that if you can’t make the weight the other fighter will get a cut of the guy’s pay. Like Kelvin said, I honestly believe that Tibau could cut the weight, and having a half-pound discrepancy on a scale isn’t that unheard of. The big knock here should be on Stephens for not making the weight.

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by -Neil- on Apr 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yellow cards are too soccery for U.S. fans

but I liked the concept

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by Zak Woods on Apr 3, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I think they serve a purpose. In Japan when a fighter gets a yellow card they’re hella motivated to get the fight moving because they know that they’re going to get DQ’d. It would put a stop to pointless wrestling on the ground, or just plain ol’ L’N’P, and would have fixed outcomes of fights like Quarry vs. Starnes, or Jake O’Brien vs. (whoever he’s fighting).

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by -Neil- on Apr 3, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, you don’t even need yellow cards..just make it policy that if you miss weight…you getting monies deducted from your purse…I’m sure that would motivate someone to make weight. I know it would definitely be a motivating factor for me. I’m tight as hell with money!

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by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No excuses for missing weight...

i being a fighter myself know how hard some weight cuts can be but I still feel that a fighter shouldnt miss wieght if u agree to fight at that weight. I usually fight at 185 and i walk around bout 200 and for my last fight i agreed to fight a 170 and believe me that was a pretty rough cut for me but i came in at 167lbs…a fighter who is disiciplined enough will do what he has to do make the weight and i feel that if u cant make the weight dont sign up to fight at that weight….

"COMMIT OR QUIT BUT DONT MAKE EXCUSES!!"

by BigDog Bryant on Apr 3, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The BigDog has spoken the truth!

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by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 3, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The entire weigh-in process was a little off this time wasn’t it? I seem to remember it not streaming and it not being completely clear what happened with both of these fighters making weight.

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by Lucas2 on Apr 3, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure…which is another reason why I posted this…if there are other circumstances that caused them to miss weight…what were they?

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by Kelvin Hunt on Apr 3, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know I was wondering this same thing when I saw that. If one guy misses then he forfeits part of his purse to his opponent, but if they both miss it’s all good? Seems to me they should still lose a portion of their money, otherwise it’s just like they did nothing wrong.

by ufc4 on Apr 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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