Was Alistair Overeem Robbed Against Remy Bonjasky?
by Kelvin Hunt on Mar 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT
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PrintSo I had to DVR the K-1 GP last night because I wasn't about to stay up until 4am to watch it...lol. So I just watched it mainly to see the Overeem/Bonjasky fight, as well as the Melvin Manhoef fight. My GOD Manhoef was out cold for a second from that short punch. Anyways, on to why I'm writing this.
First of all, I thought the fight was sort of lackluster as Bonjasky seemed to be WAY off his game. I don't know if he was respecting Overeem's punching power, or it was because Overeem was tossing him around like a ragged doll. I do think Overeem should have at least been warned for catching Bonjasky's kicks and then returning fire. That's not permitted under K-1 rules, he wasn't warned so like a smart fighter he kept doing it. It was effective as well, because everytime he threw Bonjasky to the ground it forced him to expend energy to get back up. Bonjasky was pretty much exhausted during the second round. On to the scoring:
The first round was pretty much a draw, so I agree with that. However, the second round was clearly Overeem's round. I don't see how they awarded it a 10-10. Then in the third round, I thought that Overeem was winning that round as well until he got dropped by the right hand. After the standing 8 count, he then went back on the attack as Remy basically retreated until time expired. I don't agree with the judges awarding Bonjasky a 10-8 just because he got the knockdown. Without that, the round should have been clearly been Overeem's round for the win. At most I think the third round should have been a 10-9 for Bonjasky, thus forcing another round which didn't happen.
I'm a big Bonjasky fan, but he didn't deserve to taunt Overeem like that. I could see if he had put a beatdown on Overeem, but that's not even close to what happened.
So was Overeem robbed or am I tripping because I have some bias for the MMA fighter...lol?
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watched it this morning, I don’t know K-1 rules too well but was Overeem cheating? He kept throwing him to the ground..I didn’t think that was allowed…but yeah, Bojansky was fighting like he was scared for most of it…I dunno….I guess they have a different criteria but I thought it was basically a round a piece and one round was a draw
:( @ Manhoef…homeboy was OUT! lol
by Charles Walker on Mar 28, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, catching the leg isn’t allowed under K-1 rules.
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Whoops, just saw the real throws. Throws are illegal, and are supposed to be fouls; the only real knock-down techniques that can be used to put an opponent down are strikes that put them down.
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Alistair Overeem vs Remy Bonjasky round1
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Alistair Overeem vs Remy Bonjasky round2
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6sZs5p77ig&feature=player_embedded Round 3
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ok just watched the whole thing.
1rst-10-10, but could have went to overeem.
2nd. 10-9 for overeem, that’s emabarrising that it was scored even.
3rd. i’m not an expert on k-1 rules and point scoring, but i know in boxing that would have been a 10-8 round for bojansky. alister was winning that round but wasn’t totally dominating it. i know in boxing for a fighter to get knocked down and have the round scored 9-8, he would have to totally dominate that round and have the other fighter staggered, so i guess the 10-8 was appropriate.
so i scord it 29-28 for bojansky, but it did appear that alister was dominating him, probably due to all those trips, which i guess don’t count as scoring points, but bojansky didn’t have anything to gloat about. alister should have poured it on a little more and i think he could have took bojansky out. oh well, looks like k-1 gets to survive, lol. just saw where manhoeff got creamed as well. ha!
I don’t know if I’d say it was a 10-8 in the third, but other than that you’re spot on. With that in mind though, are you really suprised? It’s Japan, and it was a guy who is primarily an MMA fighter going against a champ. Of course they’re going to score it for Bonjasky. It’s not like some situation where Overeem had a ref call a KO on him when he was still standing, but it was still flakey judging to me.
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Word….I guess it’s another flaw to point out in scoring systems…not just MMA’s. I don’t agree with a fighter getting a 10-8 round just because he scored a knockdown. Especially if that’s the only damage he did the entire round, whereas his opponent was winning the round beforehand.
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What about Bonjasky sticking his tongue out at the end of the third round, and trying to hand over the oscar award to Overeem? Pretty disrespectful, I think, and considering Bonjasky stand right up after being “too hurt to continue” in the Hari fight.. I dunno, doesn’t seem like a very positive thing from an outsider’s perspective.
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This fight sucked. It was pretty close…should’ve been an extra round though.
Overeem talked trash with the whole Oscar thing….Remy shoved it back in his face after he beat him. Cool by me.
by The Real T-Bone on Mar 30, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
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