MMA Needs More Consistency In Some Areas
by Kelvin Hunt on Feb 2, 2009 9:44 PM EST
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PrintMichael Rome has more detailed information about the vaseline controversy that took place at UFC 94. I hadn't commented on it yet, basically because I didn't want to do so before all the facts came about. I for one do not think it was intentional, nor do I think it had any influence on the outcome of the fight. Frankly, because GSP was dominating every aspect of the fight, and Penn has never subbed anyone from his back in MMA. However, with that said I think Rome touches on something I had been thinking about all day. That being some of the rules of MMA being very vague and not being enforced consistently enough.
I can't recall who it was at UFC 94, but I recall one referee repeatedly telling a fighter to stop grabbing the cage without giving a warning or deducting a point. Whereas, another referee may give one warning and then deduct a point if it happens again. Another issue is blows to the back of the head. I still believe the elbow that Jon Jones dropped Stephan Bonnar with was to the back of the head. But, what exactly is considered the back of the head?
This last rant isn't really related to the rules per se, but to the judging. This will probably always be my biggest gripe as long as the current system is in place. But to see Clay Guida be able to win a fight where he did absolutely NO damage to his opponent erks the hell out of me. This isn't sub grappling or BJJ. This is a mixed martial arts FIGHT. But to have a system so flawed that a judge could give all three rounds to Rich Franklin in his bout against Dan Henderson? There's something terribly wrong there.
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I really think it’s a moot point, they’d have a seriously tough time proving that it effected the outcome of the fight and thus if an illegal yet unintentional eye poke can win Burns a fight over Johnson and not be overturned, this certainly won’t be and thus really should be taken with a grain of salt.
And like others said, I could see if GSP was losing in the stand up and was ‘greased’ and use that for takedowns or guard passing but GSP was winning the stand up as well! And if you watch the .gif’s it’s a minute amount of vaseline that’s applied…I’m sure Diaz had tons of it on his the way Guida was rubbing his face on his back..lol, so I agree with you, if they’re going to make a fuss about this they need make it so that each and every referee follows a strict criteria
Vaseline or not, BJ got destroyed. Its not like GSP slithered out of repeated submission attempts to validate the theory. BJ took a pounding right through the fight and was able to do very little.
Its a shame that BJ’s camp decided to make such a big deal out of this and tarnish GSP’s flawless performance. Real fuckin classy.
by cauliflower_ears on Feb 3, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions
Good Write-up
I still believe the elbow that Jon Jones dropped Stephan Bonnar with was to the back of the head.
We debated that Elbow for an hour during the fight. Jones should have finished him after that elbow.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Thanks
Yea, I think the elbow hit the back of his head…although the tricep(or back of Jones arm) landed behind Bonnar’s ear.
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