Dana White Speaks On Henderson Signing With Strikeforce
by Kelvin Hunt on Dec 7, 2009 2:51 PM EST
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"He's happy, but the reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal," White told FanHouse. "I told people over the weekend that he'd sign within the next week." For the money he wanted, he's not worth it," he said. "He's not a big pay-per-view star, he's not a big attraction, and he's not going to sell out arenas. He wants way too much and he doesn't bring anything to the table."
"Nothing's going to help Strikeforce," he said. "They have too many fighters under contract and not enough events. They can't keep some of their obligations to fighters already. Either they're going to start breaching contracts or paying fighters not to fight. It'll take a lot more than one guy to help them. Their whole business model is f****d. They're coming after UFC? Yeah, OK.
"I could care less," he continued. "Here's the reality: If I wanted him, he'd be in the UFC. It's not like, 'F***, Strikeforce beat me out.' He's been a free agent for a long time. If I wanted him, I would have signed him by now."
I'm interested in knowing how Strikeforce plans to pay what Henderson was asking for in terms of salary. Granted, we don't know the exact figures, but Henderson was making 6 figures while fighting for the UFC. Can Strikeforce afford to pay Henderson what he was asking? Will Showtime/CBS help pay Henderson's salary? Stay tuned.
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and he doesn’t bring anything to the table
Sure Dana. Thats why you had him coach a season of TUF and fight at UFC 100.
Dude just sounds bitter.
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He’s bitter but . . .
While I like Henderson as a fighter and think he’s better fighter than Randy Couture in many ways . .
1. He doesn’t have the star power. ((He was great in Japan!))
2. He recieved two consecutive title shots and whined about a title shot after 3 fights. Neither guy was really in title contention, except Bisping. Note, Bisping’s title contention status was strictly about marketing. If he beat Henderson, then a real argument for a title match would have worked for Bisping.
2.a Jon Fitch went through 8 fighters to get a title shot. Kenny Florian went through 6 matches to get another shot at the title.
3. He’s Decision Dan. Bisping was his 1st KO victory in the UFC. His record in the UFC is 3 – 2, with one stoppage.
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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 7, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bisping was now way in legit title contention.
The biggest name he had beat in the division before Dan was Chris Leben.
The two losses were to who again?
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If Bisping has beat Dan…then it could have been argued that he was the #1 contender is how I took Veeis’s statement
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That’s exactly what I meant. But other than that . . . Bisping??? whatever.
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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson & Rampage, if you’re asking who Dan’s two L’s were
by Charles Walker on Dec 7, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Dude just sounds bitter.
I don’t think Dana’s implying that too literally…Hendo isn’t a big draw…White put Henderson on TUF for more exposure…put him on UFC 100 for more exposure is what he would tell you…
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For him to say if he "wanted him I would have signed him by now",
implying that he doesn’t even want Hendo in the UFC, is a completely disingenuous statement. If he didn’t, why would he have negotiations with the guy?
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I think he meant that they could’ve easily afforded to out-bid Strikeforce if they had chosen to do so.
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Dec 7, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
If he didn’t, why would he have negotiations with the guy?
lol..cause he’s a good fighter?
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Yeah
which is why some of what Dana is saying makes no sense.
I understand the him not being a huge draw, but for Dana to add on to that by saying the things I put in quotes makes him, IMO, seem a bit bitter that Dan didn’t give in and sign for less than he wanted.
Also, for some reason, Dana has banned Clinch Gear too from what I read here. Im not too clear on the particulars of that though.
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Yea
They apparantly banned Clinch Gear after Henderson refused to re-sign for what they offered…although their could be other reasons as well…either way it’s stupid to ban them IMO….that’s taking money out of the pockets of other fighters that depend on that money from sponsors.
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Dana is being Dana: Rant
As much as I like Dana White, he’s probably a jerk when things are not going according to plan. The whole debacle with Jon Fitch should serve as a reminder for any fighter deciding to work for the UFC.
With examples like Fitch, Ortiz, Couture and now Henderson, it really amazes me that many fans and media buys into everything Dana said about his negotiations with Fedor and M-1. No one knows the full details concerning the contracts, but yet even a number of fighters have some misinformed opinions about Fedor not in the UFC.
On another note, there are guys like Fitch, Koscheck, and Lytle ready and willing to fight and fight some more. They’re ready on short notice and perform like an elite MMA fighter. Why not allow them to fight in Dream. Ok, they may get injured or that might hurt the UFC brand, blah, blah, business, blah, etc. but it is no wonder why guys like Mo Lawal, and Jason Mayhem Miller are with Strikeforce. Like Miller said, if he was in the UFC, he probably would not have been able to do Bully Beatdown. Did any UFC fighters get to participate on the MTV show?
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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
I feel you
but having exclusive contracts is a MUST….otherwise…you’d have a bunch of Overeem’s running around….also…where any UFC fighters contacted about being on a MTV show?
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One of the key contractual points that Dan Henderson enjoys with Strikeforce is ancillary rights . . . rights to his name and image. That’s something that concerned Jon Fitch and the video game debacle. It’s probably why Jason Miller said, he would not have been able to do the show if he was in the UFC. He had former heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski on the show. So I’m sure they would have welcomed any UFC fighter.
Another quick glaring example on fighter treatment. Rampage doing a movie and Cung Le doing movies. Now, don’t get me wrong, Rampage completely short-changed the UFC. In a sense, Cung Le also left Strikeforce hanging . . . sort of. But both situations were handled differently.
. . . all in all, I’m a huge fan of the UFC, and the Dana White video blogs but I also recognize that sh*t is kind of messed up for some fighters. I think many young fighters better smarten up and talk to guys like Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, and Frank Trigg. Learn how to “move in a room full ’o vultures” I can only imagine how much guys like Miguel Torres, Urijah Faber and eventually Jose Aldo will be worth on the international stage.
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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 7, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
True
Another quick glaring example on fighter treatment. Rampage doing a movie and Cung Le doing movies. Now, don’t get me wrong, Rampage completely short-changed the UFC. In a sense, Cung Le also left Strikeforce hanging . . . sort of. But both situations were handled differently.
They were handled differently…also though…the UFC puts shows on way more frequently than SF…not to mention that the UFC events are PPV driven…which is huge money…so that probably had something to do with it..
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Dana
I can’t believe he would say that he thinks henderson brings nothing to the table. We all know he doas. I agree with people saying that he doasn’t have the star power. And that he only had three fights before complaining about another title shot. BUT. . .Dana did say that the winner of him and Marquardt would get a title shot. I like the fact that Dan wants Dana to keep his word, and is more than willing to stand his ground if he doasn’t
I like the fact that Strikeforce is trying to become an international player. But I can’t see them sustaining what they are currently trying to do. I pray that they are able. I want for people to one day Identify MMA as MMA, instead of UFC. So right now i’m rooting for bellator and Strikeforce to do thier thing and put something other than the UFC on the map.
Word. That would be cool.
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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 8, 2009 5:10 AM EST up reply actions
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