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TUF 10 Finale Recap And Thoughts

What a night right?  It seemed rather weird for some reason.  I don't know if it was the whole Kimbo/Alexander dance-fest during the first round, or the fact that I had to dvr the first few fights and watch them quickly to catch up with the live telecast.  Any who, let's rundown some points of note:

-Roy Nelson has granite in his chin, but we already knew that.  I picked the big fella to win, but I don't think anybody saw that coming.  I know Brendan Schaub definitely didn't, because he looked embarrassed as the verdict was called by the announcer.  Schaub will be back though, he surprised me by being able to get up from up under Roy Nelson even though Roy had side control.  Schaub's boxing also looked much crisper tonight than it did on the show.  The old saying is fitting here, "he just got caught". 

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-Wow.  DQ or not, Jon Jones absolutely destroyed Matt Hamill.  I look at that as a win for Jones, regardless of how they had to score the fight due to the illegal blow.  Hamill had taken massive amounts of punishment, and he wasn't going anywhere with Jones mounted on top of him.  How about the way Jones just slammed him to the canvas?  I was really impressed with Jones if you couldn't tell.  I loved the killer instinct he showed tonight once he mounted Matt Hamill.  That was savage, but beautiful at the same time.  The UFC light heavyweight division better keep their eyes open.  Props to Hamill for being so tough though.  Hell, a lot of fighters wouldn't have been able to take that much damage.  Let me get Jones vs. Luiz Cane next(or someone of that caliber).

-What in the world was Houston Alexander doing during the first 2 minutes of that fight dancefest.  I don't know how that one judge had the fight 30-27 in favor of Slice.  Kimbo definitely won the second round easily, because was giving Houston Alexander the business in that round.  I haven't watched the fight again, but I thought it could have been 29-28 in favor of Alexander just as easily as 29-28 Slice.  Slice definitely did the most damage in the fight, and even showed that he has been working on his ground game.  However, it's pitiful that he didn't know how to put that rear naked choke on correctly.  Well, at least he went for it I guess.  What's next for Kimbo Slice?  Will he stay at HW, or make the trip down to LHW?  I think they should just stay with 'fun' fights for Slice at this point.  So where's James Irvin at?

-Frankie Edgar finally got in the finish column!  Yea!  However, props to Matt Veach for trying to slam him through the mat a couple of times in the first round.  That was pretty impressive.  Edgar's always going to have problems with big wrestlers it seems.  Veach was tossing him around like a rag doll up until Edgar caught him with that punch in the second.  This win moves Edgar up one step closer to gettin that title shot, but he probably needs one more win since he lost to Gray Maynard a while back.

-Marcus Jones is huge, but he really needs to work on keeping his hands up and stop shooting in wildly for take downs.  He's 6'6" for Christ's sake, use that reach to your advantage the same way you use your size to muscle guys to the mat.  Mitrione hits hard, and proved it tonight.  I doubt he'll ever amount to much in the UFC HW division though.

-Tough loss for Schoonover, and now he has to leave for deployment to fulfill military duties.  Thank for your service to our country man.  Maybe they can do Mitrione vs. McSweeney with the loser getting kicked to the curb?    

-Also, wanna give a shout out to our hometown kid Rodney Wallace.  He came up short in a UD loss to Brian Stann, but he put up a great fight.  Keep your head up Rodney, you'll be back. 

-I'm not opposed to Liddell and Ortiz coaching TUF 11, but I don't want to see a 3rd fight between the two unless it's on Spike TV.  The good thing about them being the coaches is that it keeps the relevant fighters(GSP, Rua, Machida, Penn, etc) free from having to set on the shelf for half a year taping the show, etc. 

Give us your thoughts on the event, and a special thanks to all of you that joined us for the open thread and discussion! 

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ROY with the huge KO. That was great.

So that Houston/Kimbo fight was being passed off as MMA? So sad.

I’m with ya on the Jones comment. He won the fight.

Frankie’s fun to watch. Solid technique all around.

by The Real T-Bone on Dec 6, 2009 2:26 AM EST reply actions  

Schuab got caught behind the ear. That pretty much will wobble anybody.

by The Bronzeville Bully on Dec 6, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions  

Fightmetric had it close to a landslide for Kimbo and 30-29 using the 10 point must.

by The Bronzeville Bully on Dec 6, 2009 3:48 AM EST reply actions  

Marcus had no reach advantage, Matt actually had 2" on him. It looked like Matt put more effort on improving in the last 6 months than Marcus, he definitely deserved the win.

by Michael_B on Dec 6, 2009 3:49 AM EST reply actions  

thanks for the info

welcome to the site…I assumed since Jones was taller he would have had a reach advantage…I guess mitrione has go go gadget arms.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dana is a hypocrite.

He would have slammed and ridiculed any other promotion for the way that horrible Kimbo/Alexander bumfest went down let alone even having a fight like that.
And for those of you that think Kimbo is legit now, just remember that Houston Alexander sucks, and he really won this fight.

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by _Felix_ on Dec 6, 2009 6:58 AM EST reply actions  

agree completely

with everything, id qualify that Dana remark though with the fact that his scriples are compromised by business being business (like it or not), its how he got this far

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by RearNakedPoke on Dec 6, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

*scruples

"I had to fight all my life to survive. They were all against me... but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch." ~ Ty Cobb

by RearNakedPoke on Dec 6, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

hindsight is 20/20, but before Hammil’s fight with Bones, it occured to me that Bonnar got knocked down with a spinning back elbow to the head…and i was surprised the ref didn’t call it. and yah, much as i don’t want to see chuck/tito rematched, it does prevent the restless time period of taping a show/the season, then waiting for the finale or whatever else keeps it waiting in the wings to finish

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by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 6, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

I noticed that

I think it was way too cool and the ref didn’t have the heart to call it. And neither did anyone else.

by Shaun32887 on Dec 6, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding me? Jones dropped illegal elbows so he didn’t win the fight. He WAS winning and if he wasn’t an idiot he would have won. I don’t think Hamil should have gotten the win for it thou. It should have been a no contest. I would also like to point out something that has not been discussed on here yet and that is that Maz got it right on this one. He stopped the illegal elbows, deducted the point, checked Hamil, stopped the fight, and THEN went to the instant replay to make detrimin what caused the injury that stopped the fight. He did the right thing and made the right call thou I belive it should be a no contest.

by Dr_Cox19 on Dec 6, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

That whole oh “he just got caught” expression is overused when someone gets KO’d and much more fitting if a guy gets caught in a submission.
Schaub didn’t just get caught. He was punched in the head and knocked out.

by scrambledeggs on Dec 6, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yea

I wasn’t using in the sense of that’s why he lost or as an excuse…up until the point where that punch landed….he was holding his own…nothing more nothing less.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Dec 6, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

So Jones’ one illegal elbow cost him the fight. McSweeney had some questionable elbows…no DQ. Fighters, all the time, hit the back of the head. No DQ. Jones wrecked Hamill…12 to 6 or not.

I could see the point deduction but to give him a loss? Weak.

by The Real T-Bone on Dec 6, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

yea

it was weak…had Hamill been able to continue…that would have just deducted the point…and he would have finished Hamill.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Dec 6, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I still would have had Jones winning the round even with the point deducted. Too bad things ended that way because it was a brilliant performance. It was a bit of a weird night all around.

by Rich Wyatt on Dec 6, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yea

that had the makings of a 10-8 round…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Dec 6, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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