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The Unpopular Opinion: CBS Saturday Night Fights Edition

The Unpopular Opinion

Us here at MMA4Real try to be politically correct for the most part and call everything down the middle.  However, there comes a time when you have to call it how you see it and maybe give your own brash opinion(s) on certain topics.  I am going to try to do this on a regular basis following each major event and give a few of my own harsh views towards the companies and fighters involved.  The beauty of it all is you can join in yourself and either blast me for my comments or throw in your own opinions.  So here we go:

[DISCLAIMER]  Just to clarify, the thumbs down does NOT mean that I disliked the event, it's somewhat of a working logo for the column.

SBN coverage of Strikeforce: Emelianenko vs. Rogers

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First of all, let me say that I thorougly enjoyed Saturday's Strikeforce event on CBS.  Nearly every fight lived up to it's expectation and some even went beyond ours.  With that, let's get into the Unpopular Opinion:

Strikeforce  - As much as I did not believe in you, you changed a little of my opinion on where you guys are headed and I think Strikeforce is on the rise for sure.  However, the next time you put together a CBS event, leave fights like Jake Shields/Jason Miller OFF of it!  I literally had to stand up from my recliner because I kept dosing off during the fight and I was not going to miss the main event.  Also, why not showcase the ladies?  Sure a middleweight title fight is much more intriguing but with the time constraints they obviously had, the better option probably would have been to put the ladies over and stuck the Shields/Miller fight on a Showtime card where they probably don't have AS many time constraints as they do on CBS.  Also, some of those angles that the cameramen were working Saturday were horrible, but I guess that's nitpicking.

Gus Johnson, Mauro Ranallo, & Frank Shamrock - Somebody tell CBS or Strikeforce they do not need a three man team.  It DOESN'T WORK.  While their commentating wasn't horrible, at times you could tell Gus didn't know what he was talking about and I think it was Frank that was mispronouncing Sokoudjou's name.  Can't have that.  Either axe Gus or Mauro and/or leave it just Gus and Mauro.  But never EVER let the guy that comentated for the Strikeforce Challenger's show come close to a mic on a major show...he made Bill Goldberg look like a pro.

Antonio Silva - Get some cardio!  I understand that's a big big guy but to go from just tossing Fabricio Werdum around to simply standing in one place while Werdum did whatever he wanted says a lot.  While Silva showed he can hang with the big boys he also showed that he could do so much more with some cardio. 

Fabricio Werdum - I didn't think he had as much heart as he showed Saturday, which is a good thing.  However, he wants to stay as far away from Fedor Emelianenko as humanly possible.  You see the intrigue with Brett Rogers against Fedor is that he actually had a 'puncher's chance'.  Werdum doesn't even have that and without that he simply has a 'Fedor succumbing to amnesia and forgetting how to fight chance' which isn't a very good one at all.  I really think Werdum is better suited for the UFC as they have a collection of guys that he can showcase his talents against, in Strikeforce, he's running out of guys that he can look good against.

Sokoudjou - Well, you certainly showed people you have an ounce of talent but then you went and did exactly what EVERYONE predicted and fell completely apart in the second round.  This guy seriously needs to either stay in Japan fighting slower guys that he can manhandle or just be a showcase fight for up and comers who need a quick and easy win.  I know that's harsh, but Sokoudjou or maybe his trainers seem to fail to see his glaring flaws and work on them.  There's a thing called pacing yourself in a fight, why does he not understand that?  He's still young and he does have an upside to his career but he also has to take it upon himself to make a choice and do the things needed to actually do something with his career.  Here's one easy step to take...LEAVE TEAM QUEST!

Gegard Mousasi - Stay as far away from the UFC's light heavyweight division as you can.  Also a young guy but it was very obvious that Mousasi isn't ready for the upper echelon in the light heavyweight division although some people for some reason think he is.  From Luiz Cane (and wherever you rank him) up, he would get absolutely mauled and sent back to the unknown from which he came.  I do feel with his frame, he should either drop back down to middleweight where he would really flourish as he has or pack on some more muscle.  Could you imagine guys like Shogun, Machida, and/or Rampage (I know, I know) getting a hold of this guy.  Not pretty.  Hell, if Strikeforce DOES sign Dan Henderson, I'd say he'd have very little problems with Mousasi.

Jason 'Mayhem' Miller - I don't fault him entirely for the co-main event that nearly cost this show tons of ratings but he is to blame.  Miller was at least attempting to bring a little excitement and not just win the fight but give the fans something to cheer about.  Unfortunately, it didn't work.  Miller does relax a lot during his fights, especially when in precarious predicaments but that relaxing only works if you can figure a way to get out of that predicament and put yourself in a good one.  Miller couldn't and pretty much if you wanted to show someone that fight you could show them one round and tell them repeat that in your head four more times and you have the fight in a nutshell.  Miller might as well go back to MTV and get some more Mayhem Monkeys on his side before he returns to the cage.

Jake Shields - His nickname should be 'Buzzkill' and we all know why.  As I stated earlier, I had to stand up to keep myself from falling asleep as I watched Shields basically lay on top of Miller and pitter patter him for five loooong rounds.  It's sad though that in victory, Shields is probably going to get ridiculed for his performance and the fact that his fight lost many, many viewers on Saturday night.  However, it's not totally his fault as Strikeforce should've known better.  I mean, that's like the UFC getting a television deal and in their first show having Yushin Okami in the co-main event.  Not smart!

Brett Rogers - Maaaan, did this guy not have us all thinking for a few moments he was going to do what no one thought possible.  However, you can not beat a guy like Fedor...WITH YOUR HANDS DOWN...I know he was running out of steam after what was probably a huge adrenaline rush that first round but that's got to be something you learn from day one in striking, I mean I don't know I've never taken a class, but I would think that keeping your guard up at all times would be high on the list of things to teach/learn.  I don't think this fight really damages Rogers, other than his jaw of course but he has to work on that cardio and get some boxers in his camp to teach him a few things about head movement and KEEPING HIS HANDS UP.  Back to the drawing board big man.

Fedor Emelianenko - With the celebration that followed his win, you would've thought he just beat the entire UFC roster.  Here's a quick message to Fedor and his management.  FINISH YOUR CAREER IN STRIKEFORCE OR JAPAN.  The one thing you can not deny about Fedor is that he throws with ALOT of force and he does so at some insanely crazy angles...I mean I was watching from the luxury of my home and I didn't even see that right coming.  However, Fedor in a cage is a Fedor that is highly beatable.  Imagine Brock Lesnar pinning him against the cage and dropping elbows (which for some reason are outlawed under 'Strikeforce Rules') instead of punches with Fedor having no where to go and no way of getting his hips up for an armbar.  The age of the big athletic heavyweight will be Fedor's nightmare.  Though, while he is in Strikeforce I do not think he has much to worry about as far as challenges.  The only name that comes to mind is Alistair Overeem and it seems that he'd much rather fight James Thompson or Random Fighter than anyone of note, so don't hold your breath on that one ever coming to fruition.  'The Last Emperor' should have pretty much a cakewalk in Strikeforce, so great for him.  However, watching Saturday, if we give 'The Spider' a few months to gain some muscle mass at heavyweight and get his conditioning together, I without a doubt believe Anderson Silva would make Fedor look just like Forrest Griffin.  Yep I said it.

Hope you guys enjoyed the read or maybe you didn't.  That's cool, I did this to open the floodgates of discussion and I hope it does, so let me know:  do you agree, do you disagree, or do you have your own unpopular opinions coming from Saturday Nights Strikeforce show, if so...LET IT BE KNOWN!

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Well I have some things to add on to your critical list. Throught the fight Antonio Silva was just standing right infront of Werdum trying to counter. Silva is not that kind of fighter, he need to throw his jab a lot more so he can find range to land a fury of strikes. I know advertisement is all apart of television but why cut out the entrances. It really took away from the fights. Especially the main event.

by Erich Vowell on Nov 9, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

LOL

man that damn upside down thumb has me rolling….I agree with EVeezy…how can you NOT show the main event entrances? On to Charles and his points…

-I agree….drop the 3 man announce team
-Ehh…you kinda have to have the championship fights on a card like CBS…or at least Showtime(not the challengers series)
-I pretty much agree with everything else for the most part…

The problem I had with Jake Shields is…he was achieving dominant positions and DOING ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE. The odds are he isn’t going to submit Miller anyways…why not rain down punches when you have him mounted. I mean he tried to once or twice…but it was pretty weak GnP….

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

“The problem I had with Jake Shields is…he was achieving dominant positions and DOING ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE. "

True. I’m not sure I’ve seen a guy continuously get dominant position and have so little force on their strikes.

by Rich Wyatt on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

So true.
It took Shields a couple of minutes to put Daley out and he practically controlled him from a full mount for an entire round.

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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

jake shields almost puut me to sleep befroe the main event. 10:40 west coast time

i would have hated him for life if i would have missed the b. rogers vs fedor. e. fight. i would love to see cung le face scott smith. sorry to dissapoint mr. shields but nobody except people who wager on you want to see you fight. i know i will see a good fight between cung le and scott smith and it will be entertaining. i got an idea. you can face t. leites who could give you the hugging match you want so badly. then all the critics of mma can come out and say this is a “homo” sport. add some excitement mr shields b/c that zhit i saw with miller is why mma won’t catch on with the average fan.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 9, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a LONG COMMERCIAL BREAK - cutting the entrances for the main event was bad.

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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

there is nothing wrong with bully beatdown it's very funny and it comes on late at night on mtv2

if you don’t like miller you would hate it. but i like mayhem miller and he comes across sarcastic, obnoxious and in your face. three qualities i aspire too.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 9, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i’ve seen ufc PPV’s that were far more boring. the commercial breaks were shorter and more tolerable than the 25 mins breaks between fights on free UFC tv events. i liked it. 4 pretty competitive fights that had me paying attention the whole time. i liked the transitions and the miller/shields fight, i’ve seen more boring UFC wrestlers lay in the guard for 3 rounds fights and been more bored. Rogers held his own, as did Soukoudjlkdlskd . :)

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by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

Great stuff, Charles!

by Rich Wyatt on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Charles, I’m sorry, but you are completely off your rocker when it comes to Mousasi.

by Matt Bishop on Nov 9, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Someone was lit while writing this piece. Entertaining though.

by The Real T-Bone on Nov 9, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

lol@ charles being drunk

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

True. Reminds me: what’s your beer of choice, Charles?

by Rich Wyatt on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah I’m sober, I’ll take on a few of these when I get a chance

by Charles Walker on Nov 9, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

btw

you both should check your emails this afternoon…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I also have a bone to pick

I understand you are be hypercritical, and stir the pot but here is where I thought you got it wrong. What makes you think Brock Lesner would throw elbows in the position Rogers had him in? To me it seems that Brock just goes and fights on instict only. And had he been in that positioned, I think Fedor would have armbared Lesner. I thought you were a little tough on both Sokoudjou and Mousasi. There both in their early to mid twentyes they are still improving. And the three man team I thought did their best job ever Saterday night.

by Erich Vowell on Nov 9, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

I loved the article, but...

I did indeed like the article, but there is a couple of things that just don’t sit too well with me
a) How come did you like the whole card so much you are bashing so many fighters who took part in it? I, for example, was disappointed with some and impressed with others.

b) I’ve always tried to be objective with Fedor and certainly think Fedor – Lesnar fight is at least intriguing at least, but…I always find it strange how people so quickly jump on the bandwagon of some with a record of 4-1 and who only beat 2 notable HWs and all off the sudden think he is the guy to surely destroy Fedor. I am not saying Lesnar is not a monster, but let’s at least give him a couple more serious HWs (Carwin and then Nogueira perhaps?) and then, if he demolishes them, say that he is the real shit.

by aman on Nov 9, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

“I always find it strange how people so quickly jump on the bandwagon of some with a record of 4-1 and who only beat 2 notable HWs and all off the sudden think he is the guy to surely destroy Fedor.”
I think Lesnar’s body of work through his first 5 pro fights is extremely impressive, but I’m with you that I would never presuppose he would destroy Fedor. I’d have Fedor as the favorite.

by Rich Wyatt on Nov 9, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I always find it strange how people so quickly jump on the bandwagon of some with a record of 4-1 and who only beat 2 notable HWs and all off the sudden think he is the guy to surely destroy Fedor. I am not saying Lesnar is not a monster, but let’s at least give him a couple more serious HWs (Carwin and then Nogueira perhaps?) and then, if he demolishes them, say that he is the real shit.

I think Charles was speaking on the precipice of Fedor fighting Lesnar in a cage…which is the only place that fight will happen if it ever does…Lesnar’s obvious size, power, and wrestling ability would definitely be formidable…While I would have to list Fedor as the favorite in that fight due to it being Fedor…I would bet LOADS of money on Lesnar to win that fight.

Has Fedor beaten big, strong, wrestlers before? Yep…has he ever faced one with the atttibutes of Brock Lesnar? Not even close.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

Kelvin, I always love you comments, man :-) I actually yours are the ones I seek out the most.

I agree with you on everything. We should just add that if Fedor hasn’t exactly faced someone like Lesnar, then Lesnar, for sure, not only never faced someone like Fedor, but probably doesn’t have the fantasy to comprehend just how different Fedor is from everyone else he’s ever faced.

by aman on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

oh

for sure…and thanks.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

What if Both Fighters went full circle?

Like Lesner started his carrer in the ring and so did Fedor. what do you think about that!? :)

by Erich Vowell on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

am i the only person who thinks fedor looks like an overweight 40 year old battered man

while lesnar could pass for a 30 year old man gettting ready for primetime. did you see that strikeforce had fedor at either 5 feet 11 inches or 5 ft. 11 1/2 inches.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 9, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedor always looks overweight. He doesn't exactly pass the eye test pre-fight.

He does appear to be quite good at getting his arm raised after fights, though.

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by LeafHawk on Nov 9, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It's possible he's on the downside, he's shown weaknesses to be sure.

But it’s one thing for most people to be on the tail half of their careers. It’s another when at the peak of your career there wasn’t anyone close. That also can mean that on the downside of your career, for a while there still won’t be anyone close.

Fedor’s gonna lose at some point. It’s MMA. Everyone loses. But I wouldn’t hold my breath for it to happen any time soon. Certainly it doesn’t look like it’ll ever happen in Strikeforce. The toughest looking opponent for him right now is Lesnar. And if I’m betting that fight, my money’s still not going on Brock.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Nov 9, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Quality rant my good man.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Nov 9, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

I think Lesnar will beat Carwin and Nogueira will beat Velazques. And then, if Lesnar fights Nogueira and destroys him on the ground, then I will I will officially think that Lesnar will beat Fedor on the ground (if he doesn’t get KOd out while trying to take him down). Nog’s ground game is certainly better than Fedor’s, but then, Fedor is so explosive. It’s hard to pin someone who is very explosive.

by aman on Nov 9, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....wake up walker

charles.. gegard mousasi had one bad fight and you banned him back to middle weight? did you not see the fight with babalu or were you sleeping on the recliner of your home. soko can make anybody look bad. he does have that k.o power that you must avoid but other than that i thought that gegard did a great job. luiz cane would get rape in the cage(great title for a ppv) by gegard. next time my friend don’t fall asleep and try to tell me of how bad someone looked when you were asleep.

by valtheguy on Nov 9, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

I really don’t know how some can look at Mousasi and say he had a bad performance. He’s a dangerous young fighter. I personally think he would take out Rashad Evans, Keith Jardine, Tito Ortiz, Forrest Griffin, and a number of the other top UFC LHW.

I would love to see Mousasi vs. Shogun.

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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

I can’t speak for Charles….personally(and I said this right before the fight started) that Mousasi looks really small for a LHW…I mean he could add bulk…but I’m speaking of RIGHT now…

However, I think the bulk of the criticism comes from Sokoudjou doing better than expected against Mouasi…which was due to some hyping Mousasi more than they should have, and then downplaying Sokoudjou’s ability…(even if he can’t sustain it for very long)

He beats Jardine and possibly Griffin…but I think he’d have problems with Evans and possibly Tito…barring Tito is healthy after surgery….

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Rashad would beat Mousasi at this point. What I like about Evans is that he is constantly improving. I remember not liking him too much in the beginning, thinking he was kind of a boring fighter. But, Rashad has changed a lot over the last couple of years and I think he will continue to improve.

And yes, I just noticed over this weekend of the first time that Mousas is kind of a small LHW. I wonder if he can make 185. But even then, I think the likes of Marquardt would beat him (what Anderson would do to him I don’t even want to imagine)

by aman on Nov 9, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

He used to fight at 185…he won the DREAM GP as a MW…so he’s moving up in weight…which explains why he is a small LHW.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Mousasi is deceptively small. He’s about Fedor’s size . . . which isn’t necessarily big. He said that he feels bigger than Fedor.

Evans versus Thiago Silva will be Rashad’s toughest test yet. I personally think you will see Evans’s inability to deal with a bigger fighter. His slow start will work against him. While his KO victory over Liddell displayed his patience and power, the first two losing rounds against Griffin revealed how his next fight may pan out. Hopefully he will be smart enough to remember that he is a wrestler first.

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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 9, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo

he’s gonna be putting Silva on his back…watch.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Adding to the Rant

Fedor’s Interpreter

Damn, she was annoying. She totally messed up translating things from English to Russian and vice versa. I was born in Sovient Union so I grew up speaking Russian (although not my native tongue). But she mess up when translating to Fedor from English to Russian, and then, when Fedor responded, she would totally misinterpret what he said in Russian. The end result was annoying and pathetic.

Fedor’s priests

For the Arlovski fight Fedor brought with him one weird looking, bearded priest. For this fight he brought two. Damn it was annoying to see their faces. Is the Russian Orthodox Church now officially sponsoring/supporting Fedor’s fights? I was watching the Russian Fight Channel, and they actually had a very high ranking Church official on the program asking the Russian people to go to church and pray for Fedor. What’s up with that? Is Fedor going to bring with him an entire Church escort with him next time?

by aman on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, Charles

Charles, I didn’t mean to steal your podium, but I had to put this out, it was really, really annoying me. Especially the translator.

by aman on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Mauro Ranallo was so corny. Dana White was really smart in hiring a comedian who also happens to be a huge fan of the sport in Joe Rogan.

Gegard Mousasi can definitely compete with the upper-echelon of the UFC LHW division. Do not sleep.

I am not mad at Jason Miller. I don’t think he was relaxing, he was just poised and patient against a grappling, bjj expert AND he nearly pulled off an upset submission.

Cool write up, I agree with most of the Fedor commentary. While I know he will get cut up in the UFC, I think he can beat any of the top UFC heavyweight fighters. Sure I think Brock Lesnar can keep him pinned to the ground or maybe the cage, but where there is a will and a way, there is Fedor.

KEEPING HIS HANDS UP!
I find that to be an issue for many MMA fighters, including your favorite fighters. Yes, I understand that they have to be aware of takedowns, low leg kicks, etc. but I’m not surprised when many guys get dropped. They look horrible standing, especially from a boxing perspective. Rogers will be back and make some corrections-hopefully.

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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Ok Ok, I finally got time to respond…I was not implying that Mousasi can not compete with the UFC’s LHW division, I said that as of right now he isn’t ready but he’s a young guy with a lot of upswing, so he could possibly be in the near future but I don’t think he’d fair well right now. His performance wasn’t bad at all but his style and his size would definitely get him in hot waters in the UFC’s LHW division, especially the top tier…of course he’d beat Jardine, maybe Forrest, even Thiago Silva…but some of the others…Machida, Shogun, Rashad, Cane, Lil Nog, possibly Tito….he’d struggle with a lot

And as far as Fedor, it was just something I observed….he could beat Brock, if he lands a shot or two, I’m sure he could but I think Brock could definitely beat him

by Charles Walker on Nov 9, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Mousasi is ready right now against any of the aformentioned guys.
The brazilians will definitely give him troubles. Rashad, Tito?!? I’m not convinced.

Fedor can beat Brock.
Brock can beat Fedor.

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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 9, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Mousasi is ready but maybe so…I don’t see it and his performance on Saturday didn’t help me to see it

by Charles Walker on Nov 9, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Mousasi

is susceptible to the take down…Evans and a healthy Tito would put him down and keep him down if they wanted too IMO…he’s not submitting either guy either.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe a healthy, prime Tito.

I don’t think the current incarnation can really keep Gegard down though. I think he’d find a way to escape and get back to stand up. Mousasi does need to work on the takedown defense, though. He’s going to lose a fight to a real wrestler by decision pretty soon if he doesn’t clear that up. Of course, that’s why Strikeforce is the perfect place for him right now. They don’t have anyone who can really threaten him, but they have capable fighters who can make him work on his weaknesses until he’s ready for the deep end of the UFC.

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by LeafHawk on Nov 9, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea...solid point

Tito a huge LHW…and the way Mousasi just stood infront of Soko makes me think Tito could take him down with a double leg….Mousasi isn’t anywhere near as fleet of foot as Machida.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Charles

good stuff. very fair un-biased and REALISTIC observations. fedor would a very hard time against brock in the cage, alot harder time than he did against rogers, who while big in stature, is no where on brocks level of wrestling and stamina. not to say that fedor would positvley lose, but you could see alot of how a lesnar/fedor fight would go down. the 1rst jab brett landed busted fedor up and brocks 1rst punch usually sends bodies flying. i have that fight closer to 50/50 now. brock only having 5 fights compared to fedor’s 30+ doesn’t mean nearly as much when you compare QUALITY over QUANTITY. for every top fighter fedor beat he has 2 feakshow/-oversized/undersized win to go with it. what mma fighter has had a harder 1rst five fights than brock. no one. fedor is still the #1 hw in the world, but it’s a damn shame we prolly won’t ever see him in the ufc.
shields is taking a little too much heat imo. everyone predicted that he would probably win by boring 5 rnd decision, and he did. he was fighting a fighter who is a naturally bigger fighter,has never been subbed, and is known to be very durable. it was a BUZZKILL, but that onus falls directly on CBS. people forget that shields previously finished his last 9 opponents before the miller fight. lawler was in most peoples top 5 mw rankings and jake took him out in 1 rnd. daley is a big hit in the ufc now, but shileds subbed in 2. miller was even more unimpressive, worst takedown defense this side of houston alexander. SF or CBS should have known better.
mousasi IS going to be a great fighter someday, but people are trying to hard to push him to fast. he’s top ten, but at the lower end of it. he’s very young so there is plenty of time for him to develop.
there production and announce where less than stellar. i think al bernstein and pat miltech are much better than gus, mauro and frank. having 15 minutes of commercials and missing fedor’s entrance is unforgivable(saw it on the net and it was truley awesome, makes me regret not trying harder to go see this live). i know most hardcore fans like myself can easily overlook these things b/c most of the fights were awesome to watch. a casual fan might not feel the same way.
the ratings were ok and alot are saying that fedor needs gina on the same card as him to get better ratings for cbs. that worries me about SF being free on cbs again, b/c unlike rampage, gina probably is making alot more in acting than fighting and they would have to pay her alot imo to come back. she has all the leverage now, and kimbo is gone.
just in case-FEDOR WAS AWESOME SAT NIGHT!

by bdw on Nov 9, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Shit

I don’t know what Gina’s contract consists of…but she needs to win her next fight…that’s for sure…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 9, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t either. i do think Sf and Fedor will be on CBS at least 1 more time (they did good in the key18-34 demo), but if gina has to be on it for it to be a “smash hit” thats worrisome. she may have 2-3 more fights left on her contract, but she may chose to retire to acting unless SF and CBS wanna pay like 500k. thats alot of money$.

by bdw on Nov 9, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a note

I don’t think Rogers forgot to hold his hands up or wasn’t taught properly as you seemed to imply. You said so yourself you do t train so you have NO idea how freaking HEAVY your arms feel when you are completely spent! It sucks! Lol Great article and I can’t wait for Fedor vs. Lesnar should it ever happen… WAR Lesnar! ;)

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by funnytiger on Nov 9, 2009 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Even though Fedor won in spectacular fashion, I think this fight proves that it is a mistake for him to discount how much of a factor the cage is – I agree with the point about how he would probably get mauled by Brock Lesnar, but I’ll add a stipulation – IF he fails to train for the cage. I still don’t understand why there’s such a reluctance for some fighters, who are mostly used to fighting in a ring, to then train in a cage. Fedor is always dangerous because of the versatility of his technique, but if he doesn’t learn about fighting in the cage (hopefully this was his wake-up call), he’ll have much more trouble competing in the UFC, if he ever signs with them.

by LeonDaLion on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

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