Strikeforce Results: Fedor Emelianenko KO's Brett Rogers In Rd. 2
by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 7, 2009 11:10 PM EST
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This heavyweight fight was for the WAMMA heavyweight title, which honestly doesn't mean anything at all. The fight starts and a lot of feinting and they exchange. Fedor is bleeding from the exchange. Fedor takes Rogers down, but Rogers bounces right back up and pins Fedor against the cage. Rogers doing work against the cage. Fedor lands a HUGE left hook and Rogers is hurt. Fedor pounces and Rogers backpedals and covers up. Fedor tries to throw Rogers down but Rogers defends. Fedor gets the takedown. Roger reverses, and Fedor goes for a Kimura. Rogers defends and starts landing some huge ground and pound. Fedor goes for an armbar but Rogers defends. Rogers looks like he is gassing, and Fedor is bleeding heavily. Fedor finishes the round on top of Rogers.
Rogers comes out on his toes and Fedor looks calm. Rogers trying to work the jab. The crowd is loud and chanting. Fedor spins Rogers into the cage and is teeing off on Rogers, but Rogers is defending well. Rogers now pins Fedor into the cage. Rogers with a good knee to the body. Fedor throws a HUGE right hand and Rogers goes down. He's hurt and Fedor pounces!!! The referee moves in to stop the bout.
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by _Felix_ on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Brett actually had that fight under control before Fedor threw the Hail Merry….Fedor looked worried and relieved after that one was over. Rogers is right, he should have thrown more punches. He was in great shape, and looked real comfortable working off of his back…very impressive in defeat.
yeah he was landing some nice GNP, Fedor showed some weakness vs a bigger guy
by Erich Vowell on Nov 7, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
disagree
I think Rogers did better than most of us expected, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying he controlled the fight. Fedor one the first round for sure, although Brett’s ground game is legit (although he does need to work on it) and the second round…well
Well no matter what, It was a very exciting night of fights, Strikeforce put on a good show. I’m glad I stayed up past my “bedtime” to watch it.
Somewhat odd fight. No question that Emelianenko is far more skilled (everyone knew that going in). He definitely struggled against Rogers, though. At one point after he had Fedor leaking, Brett was in his guard. If he had some ground and pound skills and more stamina it might have been a wrap. Either way, props to Fedor for fighting through adversity and getting the stoppage win in the 2nd.
Yea
Rogers did real well…I might not even drop him in my rankings with that loss…
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The only low spot for me was the play by play booth. Gus Johnson has been doing his homework, but he just does not fit as an MMA broadcaster.
I agree.
He also kind of zones out and doesn’t really seem to pay attention to what his booth mates say. At least a couple of times he would completely contradict a valid Shamrock point a few seconds after Frank would make it.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 8, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t believe people are blabbing about it being an early stoppage… Rogers hit the floor like a wet bag of cement.
Bloody hell.
well that’s what you get for frequenting the sherdog forums.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 8, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
how in the hell could it be an early stoppage?
Son’s eyes rolled back into his head…and he ate like 5 punches after the big bomb without doing anything…
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Rodgers fan
I started liking Brett Rodgers the last few days, but now I am officially a fan of his after this fight. I was pretty darn impressed. I am glad the fight went to the ground and we got to see Brett’s ground game.
What now? Rodgers VS Antonio Silva? I think Brett will kill him. What about UFC?
that is perfect. do you see the follow thru that fedor's has unbelievable
that being said fedor has no idea what to do when he is against the cage. lesnar would beat him silly. the fanatsy line between lesnar and fedor has hit -125 for fedor, lesnar +110. that would be down from -300 fedor and lesnar +240.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 8, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
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I told yall Rogers leaves that chin out there…..ahem….
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yep. An exposed chin and Fedor’s speed and power is bad news.
If Arlovski had a better chin, he would have KO’d Rogers as well. Andrei’s striking is wayyy to precise for a brawler like Grim.
What I take away from this is -
Rogers:
- Is legit.
- Has a good ground game (which was a big question mark before this fight)
- Doesn’t have very good submission defense (if it weren’t for the cage, Fedor would have finished the armbar)
- Hits very hard (we already knew that)
- Poor cardio (looked exhausted at the end of the first)
- Can ragdoll you in the clinch
Fedor
- Nothing we didn’t already know about him. The guy is a beast. If KO’ing Arlovski wasn’t impressive, given is weak chin and all, this definitely was. What a hit. That would have put anyones lights out. Can’t believe the Grim didn’t go to sleep there.
Rogers can be a very good fighter given the right guidance and training. But for now, he’ll get eaten up in the UFC by the likes of Velasquez, Carwin, Gonzaga, Dos Santos, Brock, Nog etc. He isn’t ready yet.
by cauliflower_ears on Nov 8, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
fedor is weak when he is against the cage. i could see wonderment from his eyes
lesnar would tear him up when he pinned him against the cage.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 8, 2009 3:05 AM EST up reply actions
Fedor's strength is his adaptability.
He showed when he was coming up through PRIDE an uncanny ability to adapt his game plan and strategy – sometimes mid-round – to defeat a specific opponent.
So if you say he has problems in the cage, I say big effin’ deal – it isn’t anything he can’t overcome through training. Fedor is not Cro Cop. Fedor is not going to refuse to do something that may cost him a fight due to arrogance and a crazy big ego.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 8, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
if it ever happens fedor will lose. brett rogers was right when he said he should have unloaded some
bombs on fedor’s face when he had him against the cage for about 20-25 seconds. he could have won. i congratulate fedor on an awesome punch to beat b. roger’s but with lesnar’s wrestling ability and to control his opponent i see no chance fedor could beat him if he was pinned like mir against the cage. lesnar just has to learn the crucifix position and that’s all that needs to be said. it would be a bloody mess on the canvas
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 8, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
one other thing. arrogance and ego have nothing to do with it.
lesnar would keep the position as long as it took to beat him. b. roger’s was winded after the first round. i don’t think that will be a problem for lesnar when he gets healthy.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 8, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
The chin
You’re right, Kelvin.
Before the KO, Fedor smelled blood (and I don’t mean his own).
Rogers had him against the cage then Fedor pushed him off…Rogers backed up all the way across the cage, hands on his hips…then did his little hop thing…hands brought up, they engage…BAM!
Fedor knew Rogers was done at that point – it was only a matter of time.
Something Forrest brought up on the show a while ago (and continues to do so) was that people have this tendency to look at guys that Fedor is fighting, and give the guy a way to win and cling on to it. Leading up to the fight Fedor is a massive favorite (and for a good reason), he wins, and then afterwards people pick apart his performance saying he is or isn’t one thing or another. Examples being that he isn’t fighting top competition, he’s getting bullied against the cage, he’s getting pressed by people.. but at the end of the day, he wins. He always wins, and usually he does it looking like a Grade-A stud.
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by -Neil- on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
True. He’s without a doubt the # 1 heavyweight. I hope he heals up from his injuries soon and will be ready to compete in the Spring. Who do you all think they match him with next?
Whoever they can, really. I mentioned on the show that Strikeforce isn’t really about compelling fights and differentiating between top talent, they’re really just in the business of putting on fights for people to tune in. Maybe Werdum, maybe Overeem.. rumor has it they’re announcing two HW signings later on this week, although I don’t know who they’d get. The only real talent that’s not there or the UFC is Monson, Arlovski, Sylvia and Ricco. Nobody cares about Monson, they’ve said they didn’t want Arlovski (following his two losses), nobody LIKES Sylvia, and Ricco… well, it’s Ricco.
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It's probably going to be
Arlovski and Bobby Lashley….as you mentioned….nobody cares about Monson and the other cats mentioned…
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Probably. To be honest though, I’d rather see Monson fight than Lashley. He’s a name, and not much more.. I don’t even know if I’d say he’s a prospect, given what we’ve seen out of him.
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oh
I agree….Lashley isn’t going to amount to anything…whereas Monson is a legit HW…
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Well, he's legit..
but that doesn’t mean that anyone will love him. He’s certainly a quality fighter though, and out of the bunch I think I’d like to see Monson, Arlovski and Ricco in that order. It’s really weird though, because I could have sworn that Coker explicity said that they didn’t want anything to do with Arlovski following his two losses.
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You are exactly right…it’s funny how time changes one’s perception…if you’ll remember AA was supposed to announce where he was signing over a month ago…they rumor was it was SF..but the plug got pulled at the last hour…I wonder if the UFC made an offer…which allowed SF to counter or something…
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