Shane McMahon: Good Or Bad For The UFC?
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Heavy.com has run an interesting article that explores the now well known fraternizing of top UFC brass with Shane McMahon, a bastion of the WWE empire. They pose some very legitimate and intriguing questions, the most pertinent I believe being
What does he offer the UFC that makes his potential hiring one of the most intriguing stories of 2010?
While it is no shame to say the UFC has yet to attain mainstream status, it has come a long way from the "No holds barred" spectacle of UFC 1. It is now a legitimate sport and every year garners more support and a larger fan base for the high octane, professionally skilled athletes who compete combatively in the worlds premier proving ground. However for all this success, the UFC (or more aptly its parent company Zuffa) crave succe$$. They have yet to witness their product being sold in "popular" shops, nationally and globally. It is unquestionably their end goal and realistically that of hardcore fans too, to see UFC merchandise being sold in shops like Wal-Mart and various other commercial and sporting outlets. While we might not share in the commercialisation of the sport we love, I do believe we would all agree that it would go a long way to defining it as a mainstream sport in the popular psyche. It's not that we enjoy seeing nor actually "want" to see merchadise being touted to the masses, it's the cold reality that such a step would bring a relevancy to the UFC that is missing. It might also come hand in hand with such outlandish plans as seeing UFC on network tv. I for one live in hope, out of my love for the sport.
The man Shane would likely replace, recently hired executive Bryan Johnston, has failed to impress Zuffa in his short tenure on the job. Johnston came to the company from Burton Snowboards and has a very strong reputation. But since joining Zuffa this year, he hasn't been able to secure the major deals company officials were expecting. McMahon, though he might be tempted to jump off the Octagon and onto Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg’s announce table, can certainly do better than that.
The sticking point, as it so often seems to be in the fight business, is money. McMahon, who recently cashed out more than $50 million in WWE stock (and still has another $30 million in stock), doesn’t want to be a mere employee. He wants to buy into a thriving company, joining Dana White as a minority owner of the company owned by Station’s Casino magnates Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta. The Fertittas have struggled mightily, and very publicly, with a real-estate bust in Las Vegas that caught them unprepared. They may actually, as strange as this seems for two billionaires, need the money. That may be the difference between whether we see Shane McMahon inside the UFC Octagon in 2010.
Shane is undoubtedly a shrewd business man and is well aware of the appeal and potential that the UFC brand has to offer. This is reflected in his interest in the company but also the news that he is seeking a share in the company as opposed to an employee's check. Time will eventually tell how valuable Zuffa see his services as being, and so will his contract agreement. Firstly though it does remain to be seen do you the hardcore fans wish to see Shane's involvement with the UFC? Do you believe he has the ability to help establish a UFC empire?
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I don’t know if they will let him buy into the company…however, from a what he could help them do stand point…he would be a very good acquisition in regards to their expansion plans…I’m way past the whole WWE ish…the guy knows business….it’s not like he’s going to jump in the octagon and cut a promo with Dana White or anything….
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This dude can generate money and interest – I’m sure he could allow the UFC access to certain places years ahead of plan.
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Nov 24, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i think whether he's allowed buy in will be a major sticking point
i see Zuffa being very reluctant to sell part of the company to McMahon, but i see him being very reluctant to sign on for anything but a stake in the company. stalemate. i wonder is he looking for equity with Dana’s stake…?
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude I think Shane was what prompted Dana saying they would consider selling a small stake in the company.
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Nov 24, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t that qualified with the idea the person would have no-input but would be just happy to see their stock prices rise? I mean i did connect the too like you, but thats the conclusion i came too that he would want a say for his dollar.
In saying that though, maybe (and wisely i believe) he’s the kind of dude they would be willing to listen to… Like Kelvin below, how much does he want though? I think it’d be a 10% cut like Dana, certainly 5%
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
They want strategic partners according to Dana…Shane could possibly be that….but it depends on how much he wants I suppose.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no problem with shane being part of ufc but not his dad. i'll bet the thought of that has the ferttita's
attention.he could bring in sis and maybe one day they can expand to women in the octagon and she could find the talent and make it work. i really enjoy woman’s fighting. the fights they put on showtime rarely are disappointing.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yo
I think Shane’s been trying to get his Dad into MMA for a while…but Vince wants no part of it.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i find it odd that vince would want no part of it.
i basically don’t know anybody who admits to watching wrestling anymore. it’s demographics are probably 8 -18 year old boys and single moms. mma has surpassed wrastling boxing, nascar and hockey. the only conclussion i can come away is he is of the age where boxing was his generations thing while shane is mid thirties? the demographics of mma 18-39 year olds.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd respectively say your demographics are off
WWE will always be a guilty pleasure for the mature male Wolf
someone else back me up here! hehe
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't watched rassling since like 99'
Charles can chime in though I think…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aww man, i was counting on ya ;)
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
come on man who how many times has wwe gone to that tired old generation dx
or whatever they call it now with hunter hearst helmsley and the heartbroken kid. come on poke grow up.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't associate it with being childish
thats the key difference between you and me. i accept it for being entertainment, maybe i am a child as a result but happily so if that the case. i’m not saying its real, this is one dude saying he enjoys watching a few athletes put on a show. yes, it’s theatrical in the extreme but sure you get that with Dan Hardy if you follow mma too, so what can ya do :)
for a tough guy your well up on your names/facts ;)
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's probably becuase they started that 9 or 10 years ago when i once watched
wrasling i was mocking them too it says heartbroken kid and hunter hearst helmsley who was cyhnna’s body guard when he first started out. that had to be a blow to his ego. okay if you watch it just for entertainment that fine. but once ufc came around it was over for wrasling and all for as real as it gets(the ufc). let’s just agree to disagree. i’m already in some smackdown match with the holy war being played this weekend between utah and byu. peace.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
he is pretty old…lol.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
without being sexist
i really enjoy woman’s fighting
I really don’t, i’ve nothing against it. i just can’t stand the sight of females fighting lol
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2nd line isnt a quote...my bad...
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no offense but that is what dana white said, your second sentence
i think dan will come around in a year or two when guys demand it. i’m in nevada. not only is forrest griffin the most popular mma fighter but when the females fight the crowd goes crazy at the grand sierra resort and the montblue. one is in reno and one is in lake tahoe. gsr is huge too. 42inch hd tv screens. they show striforce now too here. peace.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t, i’ve nothing against it. i just can’t stand the sight of females fighting
^^this is purely my own humble perspective, if it does correlate with something Dana said coolio (",) it wasn’t inteded to though…
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in nice terms why don't you like female's fighting. they want the chance. some are
very skilled. i just want your opinion. elaborate.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't enjoy watching females fight each other
That literally is it. there is nothing sexist or anything in it, it just sickens me or something. Right or wrong i associate the physical act of fighting with being a male. I suppose it probably has something to do with seeing a beautiful woman like Gina for instance getting her faced mashed up, gay as this will sound i really detest seeing that kinda of stuff. Very odd i know, but thats just one man being honest with you. I would never say i’m against women’s mma existing, because i’m not. ya i’d rather it didn’t becasue i don’t enjoy it, but if women want to fight professionally i guarantee you i’ll be the last person to stop them! more power to them! there’s no questioning their skillsets either on my part, they’re far more skillful then i could dream of being…
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if they can fight in the war against terrorism they can do mma
gina was the one dishing out the punishment in muay thai reality show and her mma career until she met the man woman santos. somebody like santos will destroy womens mma b/c nobody can tell me that neck of hers is not from streroids. besides her though i like the combat.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude
it was never a question of whether thay can. all i ever and will ever say is that i’m not a fan of watching it. the 2 of us will co-exist happily. i just won’t be watching it, cos, damn! that gal is sexy!!! she’d make any man weak at the knees without having to leg kick them ;)

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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LoL
i couldn’t find a bigger picture…sorry Kelvin (",)
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll make you more jealous
her family owns the eldorado casino in reno. i’ve seen her workout at a local gym.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude thats just plain mean (",)
didn’t your Momma not tell you to play nice growing up?!
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 24, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yo
I must say that I wasn’t a fan of women’s mma either…and I have been converted…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its possible...
but a serious longshot. i can appreciate women as athletes, in fact i love the idea of an athletic woman :) but dude i hate seeing women fight, just doesn’t suit my soul or something…
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 25, 2009 6:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to be in this camp too. I can’t really articulate why. I also respect the female fighters though.
by SlickRick00 on Nov 25, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks! i don’t feel so odd now, and like you said much respect to them!!
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 25, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is sexist
Women should be held on the same pedelstool as men. I’m sure you are not consciously sexist but unconsciously you are. Lots of people are conditioned to think the same in our society.
by EVeezy on Nov 25, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not sexist
no offence dude but conciously and unconciously i’m not sexist. you don’t even know me?! do i like watching curling/hockey/poker/etc… no. do i think i can coexist with them without having to watch them, yes. it doesn’t mean i’m anti-curling/hockey/poker/etc… it just means i don’t want to watch it. i dont like eating lamb, does that make me a vegetarian? no. i still like eating steak and pork…
i have not, and will not, ever take away from females competing in whatever sport they choose. they are rightly free and welcome to do whatever they so wish, and like i said to rick i respect them immensely for that. do i want to watch it no because i dont enjoy it. just because i dont digg watching women kick the s*** out of each other doesn’t make me sexist. i hope that clears it up for you dude
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 26, 2009 5:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, I am sure you yourself do not discriminate against women. I am just saying that in American society, everyone likes to say there is no preference towards gender or race. But continuously or subconsciously there is. I am sure you are not saying that Gina Carono should not fight. But to say beautifully women fighting each other is distastefull is a bit wrong. No?
Please don’t take it the wrong way, I was not trying to insult you. Just to point out somthing I noticed people saying alot. When I watch MMA I do not regconize if a female is attractive or not, but when I watch tennis I do. I am sure I am a bit sexist myself when I watch tennis.
by EVeezy on Nov 26, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're alright, i over-reacted
i stand firm by what i’m saying though. i don’t believe (right or wrong i maybe) that my outlook is sexist or that i fall into the category that you correctly outline as being existent. again it would be like someone asking me to watch gay porn, do i want to watch it, *f**k no*. does the fact that i dont want to watch it make me homophobic? no, i hav nothing against it existing but i just dont want to be privvy to it.
1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2. discrimination or devaluation based on a person’s sex, as in restricted job opportunities; esp., such discrimination directed against women.
its a fine line i walk maybe, but the key is i’m not discriminating against women. nor do i believe it’s “distasteful”, i might find it that way to watch but declaring it to be so takes on a whole new conitation that i’m not making. also the fact that thy might be beautiful accentuates my wish not to see it, it isn’t the basis for it
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 27, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
should say 40/ 42 inch hd tv screens
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only downside I see to this
is that the ignorant, MMA hating “mainstream” (like journalists, sports talk hosts, “Around the Horn” type morons) would use this as another talking point (like they did with Brock) as to why MMA isn’t legit. They wont mention how Shane was a big reason why the WWE did/does so well internationally and had been an asset to that company. It will all be “See, they are just another WWE” coming from the guys who wont even sit an watch an MMA card and already have no clue what they are talking about.
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by _Felix_ on Nov 24, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea
I see that..but don’t think it’ll be a big deal in the grand scheme of things…once MMA becomes legal in NY….it’s a wrap here in America..they’ll be forced to educate themselves on the sport IMO.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Nov 24, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shane McMahon joining the team would be great for the UFC, at the end of the day. He brings connections and talent that they could really use, when you think about it. He was the head of global marketing in WWE, which is exactly what the UFC is trying desperately to accomplish. Little known fact: the revenue for the WWE internationally dwarfs their stateside revenue, and has for a little while now. They’re trying to crack into international markets, and he’s been dealing with these markets, and winning them over for years. Forrest also made the point the other day that he could be instrumental in getting other areas of revenue up. Documentary DVDs, and digital distribution. Did anyone ever consider a “Rise and Fall of Ken Shamrock” DVD?
The problem here is that McMahon probably isn’t going to be someone who will take a 9-5 for $100k a year. The article mentioned that he just cashed out $50M, and that’s not counting all of the millions that he probably has banked up over the years. A guy like that doesn’t NEED to work, but if he is, he’s probably not going to want to be just some udde on the payroll, he’ll want to have a stake in the company, if not a part owner.
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by -Neil- on Nov 24, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
neil does ken shamrock get a small piece of the money pie to that dvd?
or is that why he is suing the ufc. ken shamrock has a house on pyramid lane in north reno. i’ve seen him quite a few time’s. he always looks miserable. not kidding. he looks like he missed the gravy train.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
neil does ken shamrock get a small piece of the money pie to that dvd?
or is that why he is suing the ufc. ken shamrock has a house on pyramid lane in north reno. i’ve seen him quite a few time’s. he always looks miserable. not kidding. he looks like he missed the gravy train.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 24, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Shamrock is suing the UFC because they cut him loose in mid-contract, like they do a ton of other people, and he’s calling it breach of contract. The problem with that guy is that he’s legit crazy. Take a guy like Tito and how he hypes a fight? He’s just a prick. Ken reacting? That’s his crazy coming out, and in a big way. He actually opened a gym not too far from where I’m at, and was going to go nab an interview at it’s grand opening.. but then realized he’d probably take a shot at me.
Regarding monies though, depending on how the contracts are, he might get some money, he might not. Like WWE “performers” have it written such that when a DVD comes out with one of their matches, they get residuals. So if I’m random dude in random match that keeeps getting stuck on compilation DVDs? Yeah, I get a check every month.
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by -Neil- on Nov 25, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man that sounds sweet :)
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by RearNakedPoke on Nov 25, 2009 6:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they way i've seen him look i would not be surprised he would take a shot at you
he just looks miserable. i don’t even dislike the guy. i actually though he had some solid mma skills in the early days but i guess the ufc did not pay him enough to get beatdown by ortiz a few times.
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