Gegard Mousasi vs. Sokoudjou at Strikeforce's November 7th Event
by Charles Walker on Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM EDT
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According to Sherdog:
Gegard Mousasi and Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou have agreed to meet in a light heavyweight non-title bout at Strikeforce "Fedor vs. Rogers" on Nov. 7 at the Sears Centre Arena in Hoffmann Estates, Ill., Sherdog.com has confirmed through multiple sources.
If approved by the Illinois Boxing Commission, the three-round bout will be one of four fights televised live on CBS during the promotion’s debut on the major broadcast network.
Interesting match up, but in many ways, Sokoudjou is the lone light heavyweight with a name out there, do they really want to give this fight away and especially have it be non-title? What do you think?
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I have no clue why they would make it a non title.
Maybe they know that Sokou is going to get KO’d in the late 1st or 2nd round.
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by _Felix_ on Oct 9, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, Soko has done absolutely nothing to earn a shot at ANY title lol
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Oct 9, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea
I mean, Soko just lost to Babalu who got destroyed by Mousasi…lol.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Soko and Mousasi were supposed to fight at DREAM 11 as part of the Super Hulk shit…so this could be a factor as well…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sokou was heavilly hyped by the ufc on his arrival to the octogan.......
then was kicked to the curb b/c he could not compete. mousasi knockout in two minutes just b/c he might want to entertain a tv audience a little bit.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 9, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting match up, but in many ways, Sokoudjou is the lone light heavyweight with a name out there…
I disagree. To me, he’s just a dude who had a few good fights right out of the gate, but since then has shown little. Since he debuted in the UFC all he’s done is lose to anyone worth half their pay, and beat people that aren’t that great. Machida, Cane and Sobral are all good oponents for sure, but at the same time Nakamura Nortje and Sapp are collectively pretty awful. Realisitically speaking the guy hasn’t had a quality win since 2007 (although the Nakamura win is debatable), and only has two wins over cans (plus a leg injury TKO).
Granted, I don’t think that there’s a ton of light heavyweight talent available outside of the UFC, but Sokoudjou as a title contender? I don’t think so. Mousasi submits him in the 1st, if he doesn’t get a ground and pound TKO.
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by -Neil- on Oct 9, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
didn’t really say he was the best out there, I just said he’s one of the few with name value
by Charles Walker on Oct 9, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I mean. It’s not like Matt Hughes where he was dominant for years then faltered around top competition, it’s more like a Houston Alexander thing where he murdered a few dudes then was proven to be a dud.
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by -Neil- on Oct 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
Yo…Soko was the original Houston Alexander….
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can Soko make 205 and be competitive, i don’t think so
by davec84 on Oct 9, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
he’s made 205 before…but I doubt he’ll be competitive.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure he’s always fought at light heavyweight… although like Kelvin said he isn’t very competitive.
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by -Neil- on Oct 10, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Those Bashing Soko
Oh how we forget:
He beat Arona and Lil Nog.
Lost in the UFC to Luis Cane and gave Machida one of his toughest fights in the UFC. His other loss was to Babalu.
Total bum huh? He was competitive against Machida but won’t be against Mousasi?
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by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on now!
nobody is bashing…he wasn’t really competitive with Machida…he was the first dude Machida finished in the UFC though…plus those wins in PRIDE didn’t last long enough to prove anything…however, we’ve learned since that he has absolutely no ground game even though he has a background in judo
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This is typical Supremacy. Always trying to put a positive spin on non-Zuffa related stuff.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Oct 9, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Win/Loss column isn’t the be all and end all method of scouting a fighter – true he did knock Lil Nog and Arona out, a KO early in the first can be a little sketchy and sometimes what it tells us is: the guy has knockout power. Sometimes that’s it.
The conclusions I’m drawing from watching him fight and looking at his records are:
- If he doesn’t get it done within 3 minutes he basically won’t at all
- He is helpless off his back; not much in the way of BJJ or even the ability to scramble and get back up
So yeah I still think this is an absolute mismatch
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean that Houston Alexander is still a legit fighter too? No. He beat a few big names early on in his career and hasn’t done anything since. He may not be losing to scrubs, but a win over Nortje and Sapp? Who cares.
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by -Neil- on Oct 10, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sok might benefit from change in scenery. He really needs to get with a camp that is going, at best, utilize his tools. He also needs stop taking fights that sets him back like Sapp. He’s a 2nd degree black in judo and he rarely has shown any of it in his brief career.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Oct 9, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yo
I’ve seen him execute his judo once in MMA.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 9, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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