TUF 10: Rampage Jackson Is Getting The Ken Shamrock Treatment

by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 8, 2009 10:53 AM EDT in News Comment 18 comments

I know you faithful viewers of TUF can remember all the way back to season 3 of "The Ultimate Fighter" right? You'll remember the coaches on the show to be Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. Which until this season of TUF was the highest rated season ever. Surely, all of the events that happen on the show actually happen and whatnot so the coaches are responsible for their actions. You'll remember an episode on TUF 3 where Ken Shamrock gave his fighters the day off. You'll remember him arguing with the fighters on his team and almost coming to blows with Tito Ortiz. You'll remember most of his fighters losing in the competition. You'll remember Ken Shamrock being basically outcoached and presented in a negative light by the producers of the show for the most part.

Does all of this sound familiar?

That's because the same thing is happening on this season of TUF. Granted, we all know that Rampage Jackson hates training so we shouldn't expect him to be a great coach. We already knew this from his coaching stint on season 7. However, this season seems like Rampage is really being presented in a negative light similar to the way Ken Shamrock was on TUF 3. Rampage can be seen giving very few instructions during the fight. Rampage was shown arriving late to Demico's fight last night. Rampage is being cast in a way that makes it seem as if he doesn't care about the fighters on his team. In fact, the same method was used with Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. After TUF 3, the majority of the people that viewed the show got the impression that Tito Ortiz was a good coach that cared about his fighters. The same impression is being cast with Rashad Evans now. Check the footage of Rashad consoling Demico Rogers(who's going to be a beast btw) after he lost to Brendan Schaub on last night's episode. You'll remember the producers showing Rampage walking away from the cage questioning his assistant about taking a stool in the cage for Demico to sit on after the fight. Rampage said something to the effect of, what does he need a stool for...the fight already over.

On season 7 he wasn't portrayed as a good coach, but he was seen in a more positive light. I wonder how Rampage feels about how he's being portrayed on this season of TUF?

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He’s being portrayed fairly… before this season started I said on another site “Rashad is going to win 6-2, 7-1:ish”

Before I even knew who where on the teams.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 8, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh

I think it’s fair…because he did all the stuff they are showing….but it’s really similar to how Ken Shamrock was portrayed as well.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 8, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which was fair lol. Anyone who does not suffer from brain-damage knows how to read between the line; even Shammy taught his students some useful things, but this is reality TV and if ya cough they’re probably going to edit to sound like you were throwing up before a fight.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It really looks like he doesn’t care to be there, so this makes me believe he was probably talked into doing this season…but yeah, I think it has a lot to do with him not really caring about being there, so it comes across negatively (as it should)…however, he’s still hilarious when he wants to be, he also comes off as VERY emotional which I think has a lot to do with the opposing coach being Rashad and him not really liking him. I don’t think he really cared about Forrest like that, so he was more light hearted about losing, now he has to look over and see Rashad’s smile after they lose…which has to burn him up. I really think Rashad’s under his skin so much

by Charles Walker on Oct 8, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s borderline making excuses. Not saying it’s making excuses, but it’s borderline.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 8, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, Kelv already said we all knew he’s a bad coach…so I tried to delve deeper

but if you’re talked into doing something, it’s hard to pretend like you enjoying it…especially when you don’t like to do it

by Charles Walker on Oct 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

But personally I’ve excelled at so many low-level jobs (including being a janitor and flipping burgers) that it’s hard for me to get into that mindrame

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 8, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh

Dana White has said that he talked Rampage into doing this season….that’s no secret…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rampage let his man sit in the cage BY HIMSELF after he lost. Whether you don’t wnat to be there or not…you do not let your man sit by himself and be treated by THE OTHER CORNER better than you treat your own fighter. Good riddance to Rampage. He’s a child and a sore loser and it’s pathetic to watch. I’m even more glad in retrospect that Forrest beat him and took his belt, a belt he clearly doesn’t deserve to have strapped around his waist, b/c a champion would have a level of respect for another fighter who’s admittedly fairly new to the mma game.

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by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 8, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

even though I missed that part….for some reason I couldn’t turn away from RW/RR Challenge….that is low class on Rampage’s part, that ain’t whats up, he should know better

by Charles Walker on Oct 8, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea

Also, questioning that dude got choked out with an anaconda choke was bush league as well. I mean, I could see if it was a guillotine…but the anaconda? Really Rampage?

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 8, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i already made this comparison in previous post but you write much better than me mr. hunt

i’ll tell you what i saw in ken shamrock. i once saw him walking in the reno airport and then he sat down. the guy just looked pissed off with life. this was only about a year ago. they actually have a small mma scene here in reno. they have their shows at the reno lawler events center and the downtown reno events center. they are not far from each other. one is on the university of nevada at reno campus. i heard he is a small investor and coaches sometimes here. i have seen tito ortiz at kendall grove fights on tv cheering him on. i really believe tito cared alot more about his fighters but maybe he was just portrayed that way. i’ll compare it to survivor the reality show. i admit i watch it if it’s a good cast. when the winner is announced they have all the other contestants come back and intereract with the audience and the tv show host of that show. every season i see a few people who complain the way they were portrayed was not how they were. they edited all their good parts and kept the bad parts. it’s whoever the owner or producer’s think what is best for their show. it looks like shamrock wants nothing to do with the ufc or most likely burned every bridge he had there. last time i saw shamrock fight he lost to some english guy i have never heard of at it was embarrising. ramble on!

by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 8, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yo

Shamrock ~~won~~ got no contested in his last fight and is currently sueing the UFC….lol

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 8, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone should just boycott the show like I am.

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by _Felix_ on Oct 8, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

;-) Yeah, and we should just stop commenting about it too.

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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they may be showing rampage barracus in a negative way, but it’s not like rampage isn’t making it easy for them. i don’t even think they are using editing to do it, it’s just coming naturally. for them to try and spin it as anything positive towards rampage, that would be unfair to rashad, because rashad is really shining through, not just the demico incident, but everything he’s doing is making me like him more and more every episode. i can gaurantee you rashad will gain alot of new fans after this season, and will deserve it. the only person to blame on the way they are covering rampage is rampage himself imo.

by bdw on Oct 8, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh i agree

Which is why I said

Surely, all of the events that happen on the show actually happen and whatnot so the coaches are responsible for their actions.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 8, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

i can’t remember which season it was (probably the shamrock/tito one) but dana said "this show won’t make you an asshole, if your’e and asshole the show will just expose it. something like that. :)

by bdw on Oct 8, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs