Jason MacDonald Doesn't Like To Lose Via Lay And Pray
MacDonald blogs about his MFC 22 fight against Travis Lutter:
Obviously I’m disappointed I lost Friday night in Edmonton at MFC 22. But to be truthful, I’m not extremely disappointed in the way I fought. For the most part I was doing what I wanted to do.
I knew Travis Lutter had great takedowns, so we figured he would be able to take me down and we prepared for what to do if he did.
Once he got me down, he just held me on the ground, doing nothing, for two-and-a-half minutes. At one point I looked at the referee and asked, "Are you going to stand us up? C’mon."
I also talked to the commission afterward and they felt the fight should have been stood up a couple of times.
Sure, he was able to mount me, but that was just because I was doing everything in my power to try to get away from him and to prevent him from holding me down longer. So the clock is ticking away and he’s not even hitting me.
I didn’t feel at any time I was ever in danger. And I wasn’t hurt at all. All I have is just one scrape on my nose, which I think was from the mat.
It's true that MacDonald wasn't in any real danger, and I even joked in the MFC 22 open thread and discussion that Lutter thought it was a grappling match and not MMA. MacDonald continues:
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But the one question I want to ask is, how do you lose two rounds to a guy who lies on top of you for two rounds and does pretty much nothing but hold you down.
I’m not arguing or disputing the outcome of the fight. He won the first two rounds, I dominated the third. But how the heck does the ref not stand that fight up?
The reason MacDonald lost the first two rounds is because Lutter was able to take him down and maintain control. It's true that Lutter wasn't doing any damage, BUT he still took MacDonald down and got advantageous positions like the mount, side control, and he took MacDonald's back. MacDonald should have gotten back up to his feet instead of asking the referee to stand them up IMO. Now, if we are looking at the fight as a whole in regards to who did more damage, or who was trying to finish the fight? Then Macdonald won the fight hands down as he did dominate the third round. However, this isn't Japan where fights are judged as a whole and as a fighter you shouldn't let it go to the judges if possible. He's a veteran though and keeps a good attitude about it, so he'll be back.
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Yeah not really sure what MacDonald is complaining about here one minute he says how do you lose 2 rounds to a guy who takes you down and pretty much does nothing and then he says I’m not arguing or disputing the outcome he won the first 2 rounds?
Well nothing like contradicting yourself.
Bottom line Lutter “deserved” the decision, but the fight sucked, and so did Mckee/Prater.
Thankfully Nickels and Heath made up for it.
by scrambledeggs on Oct 4, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh lord
McKee/Prater was horrible…but I anticipated that already…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should’ve said something like “Yeah it was a loss but not a devastating loss ya know?”
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Oct 4, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is an idea JMac, learn some god damn wrestling.
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by villin on Oct 5, 2009 4:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop Complaining
I think fighters overall should stop complaining about being held down and controlled fro a couple of minutes. It is mixed martial arts. It’s a mix of grappling, wrestling, kick-boxing, boxing, etc. If a grappler or wrestler decides he wants to take you down and control his opponent for the duration of the round, learn how to escape or get real active from your back like Diego Sanchez did against Clay Guida.
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 5, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
or get real active from your back like Diego Sanchez did against Clay Guida.
Word, he basically won that round from the bottom IMO.
Bloody hell.
by 3PA on Oct 5, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 5, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The point of getting someone into a disadvantageous position such as side-control or mount should be to allow an effective offence, rather than getting points for the position by itself. Personally I would like to see “octogon control” to be taken out of the judging criteria completely, and only score based on effective offence made from that position. Just like the person on the bottom won’t get points for failed sub attempts from the bottom, the person with top control shouldn’t get points if they do nothing with their advantageous position.
You don’t get points for a strike which is successfully defended, and you don’t get points for a sub which the person avoids without being in any danger. Why should a wrestler get points for an advantageous position which the person on the bottom successfully avoids danger from?
It’s half the reason why a wrestling base is so effective in MMA, the rules reward wrestling no matter whether it’s used to successfully mount an offence or not.
by brad23 on Oct 5, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good points brad
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