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Making The Case For Shogun Rua At UFC 104

UFC LHW Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

UFC LHW Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

This weekend we get to witness another epic clash in the UFC light heavyweight division, although most feel that it will be more like an epic one sided beatdown if anything.  The smart money is to bet on the champion Lyoto Machida and rightfully so, because no one has come close to sniffing a W against the guy(and no Tito Ortiz wasn't close with the triangle/armbar).  However, I think Shogun Rua has a better chance of beating Lyoto Machida that many are giving him credit for.  Will Rua will able to beat Machida?  It's doubtful, but I wanted to take some time out to point out a few things.  This could be long, but should be worth it if you are a Rua fan.  So they say you are only as good as your last fight right?  So I went back and watched the Rua/Liddell fight to see if I could pick up on any positives that may help Rua pull off the upset.  I realize that Liddell and Machida have different skillsets and attributes, but both are still counter-strikers at heart.  I saw some really good positives, but I saw some negatives as well.  Check it after the jump.

UFC 104: Machida vs. Shogun coverage

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 The Positives

-Good Head Movement...could make him vulnerable to head kicks, but he guarded his head well

-Good Chin...Liddell tagged him a few times and Rua took the punches well

-Still explosive and seemed pretty light on his feet

-He timed his take downs well and was successful against someone with great take down defense

-His hands were down near his chest a lot, but he put his guard up when he was within striking range and blocked a lot of Liddell's punches.

-Threw several big overhand rights that could be a good counter to Machida's kicks if he can time it right

-He didn't do any of his crazy flying, spinning head kicks, or basically anything too aggressive that would leave him vulnerable

-He was the stalker in the Liddell fight, every time Liddell launched an attack Rua disengaged or blocked and then came right back with his own offense. 

The Negatives

-Every time he kicked whether it was a leg/head kick...his hands were down near his waist

-Liddell was able to hit him even though his punches are light years slower than Machida's.

 

As you can see the positives heavily outweigh the negatives here, but those two negatives could be enough to keep him from winning.  However, this is what Rua must be able to do if he is to defeat Lyoto Machida at UFC 104:

-I mentioned that Rua didn't do any of his high flying, overly aggressive kicks etc, against Liddell and he'll want to keep that same mindset against Machida.  He simply can't afford to leave himself vulnerable to Machida at any time and all of those moves have Rua turning his back to Machida, which means he is taking his eyes off of Machida.  That's a no no.  The guy is hard enough to hit when you are facing him and those high flying moves will not work against someone with Machida's quickness and stance.  He'll want to dictate the pace of the fight and close the distance to clinch.  Which is something that Machida does allow his opponents to do.  Tito Ortiz and Kazuhiro Nakamura both were able to get into clinch positions against the cage numerous times against Machida and Shogun is probably a lot more explosive than either of those fighters to take advantage of the position.

-I watched the Machida/Nakamura fight from UFC 76 and Machida fought from the clinch a lot in that fight.  Which would probably be Rua's golden opportunity to cash in for a couple of reason's.  We all know that Rua has a muay thai background and his clinch work is devastating.  He could do some damage from that position OR get over under's and take Machida to the ground.  Which is something he loves to do, as he did it repeatedly in the fight with LiL Nog and he's done it in a lot of other fights.  The move(I couldn't find a .gif) is similar to the belly to belly suplex position.  Rua grabs over/unders and kind of falls back using that momentum to throw his opponents and land in side control.  Machida will not want to be on his back with Rua in top position.  Not only does it put Rua in an advantageous position, it takes away Machida's best asset...which is his striking acumen and ability to change angles and overall movement.  I know Machida is a BJJ blackbelt as well, but the fight will be much more even on the ground than standing.

-On the flipside of that, Rua definitely doesn't want to be on his back against Machida either.  While Shogun is well versed in submissions, he doesn't necessarily pose a big threat off his back.  He tends to turtle up at times then tries to roll over and spin back into the guard position. Although he is good at sweeping with omaplata's and is versed leglocks, he should just avoid being on his back altogether.  Because the times we've seen Machida in top position on the ground, he has been able to do damage there.

The gameplan is pretty simple and similar to the same one I had for Rashad Evans, unfortunately Evans decided to do the total opposite and we see where it got him.  The same will happen with Rua if he doesn't abide by it as well.  Machida will not be outstruck on the feet, it's just not going to happen unless you are lucky enough to hit him perfectly on the chin and put him out.  That's a chance no one can afford to take unless you are Rampage Jackson, but he's too busy trying to be a movie star.  You have to close the distance on Machida to clinch(preferably against the cage) because he allows you to do so at times.  That's when you have to capatilize by inflicting damage or putting him on his back.  No one has been able to capatilize yet though.  However, Rua has the tools to do so and we'll have to wait and see if he is able to solve the Machida puzzle on Saturday night.

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Well said. I’ve been waiting on this matchup for awhile. It’s going to be a real tactical battle.

by SlickRick00 on Oct 22, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can’t wait to see this one – especially so we can see where Shogun really is at (win or lose).

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 22, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea

If his cardio is on point..he has a shot…if not…good night…as Forrest said on the radio show last night….25 minutes is a long time to go without getting KTFO by Machida…but if Shogun can get him to the ground…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pulling for Shogun

It will be a win he will have to work for. I hope this main event is hell of a lot better than Belfort/Franklin was.

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by _Felix_ on Oct 22, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking both guys will be fairly methodical. Wouldn’t be surprised to see both fighters need a substantial amount of time in the cage to settle this one.

by SlickRick00 on Oct 22, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it might be one of those fights that start off with there being no strikes for the first minute or so because they are trying to feel each other out.

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by _Felix_ on Oct 22, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Then again…Machida has been more aggressive with each fight here lately…so he might come out and try to apply pressure against Shogun…since Shogun will not be expecting that.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s crazy that Nakamura did really good against both these guys….Shogun best learn from Nak and use them looping punches while charging

by Charles Walker on Oct 22, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so

what did you think of my strategy charles?

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

I need those predictions…check yo email

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with pretty much everything, it’s whether Shogun will follow suit….the more I think about it, Machida’s very hittable in the clinch…as seen in the Nakamura fight, so hopefully Shogun realizes that…and….I got ‘em coming, gimme a few and you’ll have mail

by Charles Walker on Oct 22, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

like diego…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shogun definitely looked more focused against that dancing guy…but Machida is a completely different animal. Unfortunately I see Machida finishing Shogun, maybe in the 2nd or early 3rd. Like Machida said, when a fighter makes a small mistake against him, he pays for it in a big way.

by The Real T-Bone on Oct 22, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Job Kelvin

I really can not disagree with any of the points you made because I really think there’s a strong argument for Shogun.

What happens when and if Machida gets hit a couple of times? How will he react? We know Shogun can take a punch but we don’t know that about Machida.

Machida in the clinch. I think people need to also pay attention to Machida’s background in judo and sumo wrestling in the clinch. While Shogun’s muay thai clinch looks very agressive and dangerous, particularly against Rampage . . . Machida is no slouch. Unlike Quinton Jackson, Lyoto Machida knows what to do in the clinch. Many people thought Tito Ortiz was bigger and better in the clinch but like Dana White said, he threw Ortiz around like a rag doll when he saw his opening. So I do not think Shogun will have a edge against Machida in the clinch. Machida’s trips are super-amazing.

I don’t think the only real place Machida will be surprised is by Shogun’s power and the durability of his chin. Note, that is if Shogun is able to connect often, if at all.

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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 22, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

machida took that slap from antonio inoki pretty well. :)

by bdw on Oct 22, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Machida is very good in the clinch…but Tito Ortiz isn’t very good in the clinch…and most if not all of his take downs come from the shot…unlike Shogun who is very adept at dragging opponents to the ground from that position. I’m super intrigued by this fight…the question is…what if Shogun wins? What does that mean?

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would mean the talent-depth at 205 is the most ridiculous of any weight division in MMA ever.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 22, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool stuff… personally I wouldn’t mind Shogun vs. Evans :)

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 22, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good stuff Veeis

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo Kel

Don’t fuck up our picks for 104 man! MACHIDA IS GONNA WHOOP DAT ASS!

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 22, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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