Report: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Will Fight The Winner Of Shane Carwin/Brock Lesnar

by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 2, 2009 12:01 PM EDT in News Comment 20 comments

UFC heavyweightAntonio Rodrigo Nogueira

That's the word according to insidefights.com via f4wonline.com(The Wrestling Observer). This is a fight that I've been lobbying for every since Nogueira bested Randy Couture at UFC 102 and this is why. An overwhelming majority of you agreed with me that Nogueira earned that title shot after defeating Couture as well. Nogueira is past his prime, but giving him this title shot accomplishes quite a few things.

-It gives ~~Lesnar~~ the winner of the Lesnar/Carwin fight a credbile opponent. Nogueira is still ranked as at least the #4 heavyweight in the world and some have him as #3.(He's #4 on this site).

-The fight is very marketable in the fact that Nogueira can take loads of punishment and still pull off mythical wins via submission, and both Lesnar and Carwin have largely unproven submission defense.

-Nogueira challenging for the belt allows future contenders like Cain Velasquez the opportunity to get more experience and improve their skills.

Since the Lesnar/Carwin fight is taking place in late November. The earliest this fight could take place is probably sometime in March 2010 unless the injury bug strikes again or something.

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Yeah I predicted they would squeeze a titlematch out of the winner of Nogueira/Couture.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 2, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who knows, if the ref let's the fighters fight like they are doing on the tuf show.

nogueira vs lesnar/carwin would be very entertaining and very bloody. hopefully they get a referee like herb dean.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 2, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If they let it go like on TUF Lesnar might be the first MMA fighter to win via murder.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yo

Lesnar might keep it standing with Nogueira?

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 2, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nog has an exceptional standup game too…remember he has some sweet boxing skills. You know Nog can take some punishment but Lesnar’s got some unusual speed/power mix. Let’s see him get past Carwin first and if he does in a convincing way…

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by brohamm1978 on Oct 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

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by cosmosherry on Oct 3, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would Lesnar want to go to the ground with Nogueira? I think that would be a really bad move on Lesnar’s part.

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by Karmakaze on Oct 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm saying

btw, welcome to the site Karmakaze and thanks for joining the community.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 2, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lesnar made Frank Mir look like a white belt at UFC 100

Surely you guys give him some credit for being able to stifle BJJ?

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 2, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nog has a different style of grappling than Mir. Mir’s submmision game has more to do with power submmisions like Shoulder Lock’s, Kimura’s, and a varity of Leg locks while Nog game is more get what an oppent gives him. Lot of armbars and Triangle chokes. I think Brock could be able to power through some of Nog’s subs but I think Brock would have to finish it quickly or Nog would sub him.

by EVeezy on Oct 2, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea

Nogueria’s BJJ is better than Mir’s…I’m not sure that Nogueira wants to necessarily be under Lesnar…but I don’t think Nogueira will allow Lesnar to pin him against the cage like that…surely he’ll be training to avoid/get out of that position that Lesnar was using.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 2, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it's a striking affair Lesnar's key to victory will be straight punches down the pipe

The guy’s jab is a Middleweight’s knockout punch

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 2, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is true

I wanna see Lesnar in like the 4th round….I wanna see what his cardio would be like at that point…

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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 2, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He better start working on stright punches, the puches I have seen him throw so far have been 83 inch loopers. If Brock learns how to throw proper punches, and learns how to protect himself from strikes It will be all over.

by EVeezy on Oct 2, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to see him train some footwork and body positioning

More than hand technique.

The punch that sent Herring rolling was pretty damn decent for a guy who’s only been training stand-up for a short time. He never really seems to get his body into it though.

Bloody hell.

by 3PA on Oct 2, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously I agree 100% when he uses takedowns he rushes at opponents like a bull

by EVeezy on Oct 2, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want to see Nog possibly permanently injured!

I think Nog deserves this opportunity. Do I think it is lopsided? Yes. I simply feel that Brock’s take down defense has improved dramatically. He does need to work on his movement to avoid the punches more. If it goes to the ground, I think Lesnar will Big Country blanket Nog and then ground and pound him. Just my opinion.

I would love Carwin to beat Lesnar as he has been the only heavy that I have thought stood the best chance out of the UFC’s current talent pool. Go Carwin!

by cosmosherry on Oct 3, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs