Why Tito Ortiz Will NOT Fight For Affliction

At first I wasn't even going to address the whole Tito Ortiz attending an Affliction press conference. But now that it's come about that Ortiz is supposedly signing with Affliction? I just had to comment on it.
Sources...indicated that Ortiz revealed that he has agreed to sign with Affliction Entertainment.
Everyone pretty much knows that Affliction is on it's death bed so to speak, so I can't even fathom these two getting together. Let's take a look at the some variables as to why Ortiz will NOT fight for Affliction:
- Ortiz is coming off of a surgery in which he has his spine FUSED. He'll tell you that he'll be ready to fight by July, but let's be realistic here. Ortiz is no spring chicken, if Nate Quarry was out of commission for almost 2 years? There's no way that Ortiz will be fighting again in July by his estimates. Why would a company sign a fighter, when they have no idea if he'll be able to fight again or any idea of what his skill level will like so soon after back surgery?
- Affliction is in the hole big time in terms of debt. They are going to lose money on this second show also if it happens. Will they even be around for a third?
- So Affliction is going to allow Ortiz to all of a sudden promote his Punishment brand of clothing?
- Here Atencio admitted that Ortiz wasn't worth the money he was asking for a few months back. So now Ortiz is going to take a cut in pay to sign with a company on it's death bed? Doubtful.
- Affliction would want Ortiz because of his value as a PPV draw. However, that draw isn't what it used to be if you look at his last 3 fights in the UFC. Also, Affliction's idea of promoting a show is to hold random press conferences out of the blue. They have no promotional machine whatsoever to promote their events, so without the UFC brand behind him what is Ortiz's real worth in terms of PPV?
I mean I could be wrong and he could sign and fight for Affliction, but I think the deck is too stacked against them even getting to the point where Ortiz will be healed and able to fight.
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I agree mostly with the possible post surgery complications that you point out. The only way I see him getting signed is if Trump has in fact told Atencio that he’ll put in the money for Tito, being that Trump and Tito are friends now.
by Felix on Dec 16, 2008 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but why would Trump offer to pay Tito’s wages? Affliction would be better off if Trump loaned the promotion the money…lol
by Kelvin on Dec 16, 2008 9:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trump won’t put any of his own money into Affliction unless he’s positive he’ll get a return on his investment.
by Jase on Dec 16, 2008 11:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A lot of good points there Kelvin. I’d caution you a bit on assuming his recovery would take anywhere near what Quarry’s did. It truly depends on exactly how much work the surgeons had to do in there and at what level the fusion took place. Recovery can be as little as 6-9 months for an impact athlete. I’ve had D1 wrestlers back on the mat in 7 months. More importantly though in support of your argument, spinal fusions are far from cures. They tend to relieve much of the leg pain due to disk herniations and neural deficits, but a lot of the actual back pain will remain long after.
“Why would a company sign a fighter, when they have no idea if he’ll be able to fight again”
This is the company that just signed Gilbert Yvel after all. The chances of him getting licensed to fight by the CSAC after his license denial by the NSAC is highly unlikely. Its also the company that promoted the heck out of Aleks Emelianenko fighting at the first Affliction show without ever making sure that he could get licensed with that prior felony conviction. They are not exactly the swiftest when thinking about who they will or will not sign!
by Bill Reger on Dec 16, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bill, I know right! Thanks for stopping by! Also, thanks for the heads up on that other Affliction piece…I knew that couldn’t be that crazy!
by Kelvin on Dec 16, 2008 4:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As many fans know, Tito Ortiz has been in a few Affliction Clothing ads as of late, along with Arlovski and Barnett. So, its not that far fetched. The far fetched part would be that Affliction is around after January’s event….
by Jeff on Dec 17, 2008 12:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeff, Tito isn’t signing with Affliction basically for the first reason I mentioned according to Tom Atencio.
by Kelvin on Dec 17, 2008 8:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You’re right on all accounts.
People don’t care about Tito like they used to. He doesn’t spark the excitement he used to in the past. If he signs with the UFC again, an event involving him and couple of other good fights will draw decent numbers. On the other hand, an Affliction event featuring Tito won’t do half as well.
Its simple. Fedor vs Couture would do a million buys under the UFC banner but would struggle to get even half as many viewers if it was an Affliction product.
by Flyingknees on Dec 17, 2008 11:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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